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    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/s...=ESPNHeadlines

    Sources: Camera confiscated after claims of Pats spying on Jets

    By Chris Mortensen
    ESPN.com
    Updated: September 10, 2007, 6:39 PM ET

    NFL security confiscated a video camera and its tape from a New England Patriots employee on the team's sideline during Sunday's game against the Jets in a suspected spying incident, sources said.

    The camera and its tape were placed in a sealed box and forwarded to the league office for investigation, the sources said.

    "The rule is that no video recording devices of any kind are permitted to be in use in the coaches' booth, on the field, or in the locker room during the game," the league said in a statement from spokesman Greg Aiello. "Clubs have specifically been reminded in the past that the videotaping of an opponent's offensive or defensive signals on the sidelines is prohibited.

    "We are looking into whether the Patriots violated this rule."

    The Patriots' cameraman was suspected of aiming his camera at the Jets' defensive coaches who were sending signals to their unit on the field, the sources said. The league also is investigating some radio frequency issues that occurred during the game.

    The league's compe ion committee could conduct a conference call about the incident, which violates NFL policy, and ultimately recommend a penalty that could cost the Patriots a future draft pick or picks if it verifies that the team was spying on the Jets."It's not their first time," a member of the committee, who did not wish to be identified, said.

    In fact, Green Bay Packers president Bob Harlan confirmed a similar incident that occurred when the Patriots played at Lambeau Field last Nov. 19. The same cameraman who was questioned by NFL security on Sunday was also the one whom the Packers removed from the sideline and escorted from the field during their 2006 game, according to Packers security official Doug Collins.

    "From what I can remember, he had quite a fit when we took him out," Harlan said. "We had gotten word before the game that they [the Patriots] did this sort of thing, so we were looking for it."

    A Jets official declined comment Monday, directing an inquiry to the league office. The Patriots also did not have immediate comment.

    "With anything along those lines, those are all league-related matters, and anything that deals with an issue like this or anything on a team-by-team basis, those all go to the league," coach Eric Mangini said in his news conference Monday.

    New England cornerback Ellis Hobbs said he was unaware of the controversy, and unwilling to believe his team had cheated.

    "We put too many hours in as individuals and a team to have to go out and cheat," he said. "If it's true, obviously, we're in the wrong. But I'm standing behind my team, my coaches. I don't think we do that stuff."

    Chris Mortensen covers the NFL for ESPN. Information from The Associated Press contributed to this story.

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    As stated, it was not a first offense. It was even the same coach.

    Take the draft pick, Roger.

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    Veteran scott's Avatar
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    Pats are turning out to be a bunch of cheating s, too bad.

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    License to Lillard tlongII's Avatar
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    If you ain't cheatin you ain't tryin.

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    Spurs, Colts, Cowboys, and Irish SpursFanFirst's Avatar
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    This story is awesome!

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    Goodell should suspend the entire NE coaching staff for 6 games. Oddly enough they'd still probably go 5-1 in those games.

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    reppin the 16th letter! Fillmoe's Avatar
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    cheating ass es.... give the draft pick to the niners

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    The Crominator J.T.'s Avatar
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    cheating ass es.... give the draft pick to the niners
    It should go to the Jets since they got caught doing it against the Jets.

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    A neverending cycle Trainwreck2100's Avatar
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    If you ain't cheatin you ain't tryin.

    If you get caught you ain't trying hard enough.

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    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3014677

    NFL commissioner Roger Goodell has determined that the New England Patriots violated league rules Sunday when they videotaped defensive signals by the New York Jets' coaches, league sources have told ESPN's Chris Mortensen.

    NFL security officials confiscated a camera and videotape from Patriots video assistant Matt Estrella on the New England sidelines when it was suspected he was recording the Jets' defensive signals. Sources say the visual evidence confirmed the su ion.

    Goodell is considering severe sanctions, including the possibility of docking the Patriots "multiple draft picks" because it is the compe ive violation in the wake of a stern warning to all teams since he became commissioner, the sources said. The Patriots have been suspected in previous incidents.

    The Patriots will be allowed an opportunity to present their case by Friday, sources said, most likely via the telephone.

    The league also was reviewing a possible violation into the number of radio frequencies the Patriots were using during Sunday's game, sources said. The team did not have a satisfactory explanation when asked about possible irregularities in its communication setup during the game.

    Goodell is expected to have a decision no later than Friday but that is not set in stone.

    The league refused comment but did confirm Monday that they were reviewing a possible violation by the Patriots.

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    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ TheSanityAnnex's Avatar
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    Take their 08 draft picks.

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    reppin the 16th letter! Fillmoe's Avatar
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    Does this mean the 1st round pick we traded to them goes back to us?

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    http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/f...icleid=1030745

    LOL:

    LT: I’m not surprised
    By John Tomase
    Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - Updated 12h ago

    Count Chargers star running back LaDainian Tomlinson among those not surprised by allegations the Patriots [team stats] used a camera to steal signs.

    “I think the Patriots actually live by the saying, ‘If you’re not cheatin, you’re not trying,’ ” Tomlinson told reporters with a hearty laugh in San Diego yesterday. “I mean, I think that’s the way they live off that statement. You keep hearing the different stories of people complaining about stuff that they do. So I’m not surprised.”

    Tomlinson mentioned the Dolphins and Jets and how “they got a hold of a playbook or something.”

    “There are just different things that happen you keep hearing about. Anything for an edge.”

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    Taking draft picks? Thats bull . They should have to forfeit the win. A fine or losing a draft pick or two isn't that severe. A loss will make sure that no one pulls like that anymore. And they really deserve it, since in the past, they have been accused of cheating in the same ways.

    the Patriots.

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    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    the Patriots only mistake is hiring somebody stupid enough to get caught. twice.

    if you don't think every team has somebody doing the exact same , you're living in a dream world.

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    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    Looks like LT is still butthurt about getting owned last year.

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    Win. Whatever it Takes Whisky Dog's Avatar
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    They just need to allow the middle linebacker to wear a communication helmet like the QB so the D coordinator can call the signal directly without having to use hand signals. That would clear the problem immediately for all teams.

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    the Patriots only mistake is hiring somebody stupid enough to get caught. twice.

    if you don't think every team has somebody doing the exact same , you're living in a dream world.
    So all the other teams are doing this for the 200+ games each season, but the Patriots (an organization none for being very disciplined and deliberate) gets caught no once BUT TWICE. Either the Patriots are complete re s to get caught, or they're doing something that nobody else is doing.

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    Taking draft picks? Thats bull . They should have to forfeit the win. A fine or losing a draft pick or two isn't that severe. A loss will make sure that no one pulls like that anymore. And they really deserve it, since in the past, they have been accused of cheating in the same ways.

    the Patriots.

    Huh? I thought you were a Patriots fans?

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    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    So all the other teams are doing this for the 200+ games each season, but the Patriots (an organization none for being very disciplined and deliberate) gets caught no once BUT TWICE. Either the Patriots are complete re s to get caught, or they're doing something that nobody else is doing.
    Yeah, and Oklahoma is the only major NCAA football program that's cheated recently as well, since they're the only ones to get caught...

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    Yeah, and Oklahoma is the only major NCAA football program that's cheated recently as well, since they're the only ones to get caught...
    How many NFL teams in the history of the game have been caught videotaping the signals and jamming radio signals?

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    They should have to forfeit the win.
    bingo.

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