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It still seems this team should have sat on this story for awhile. Test it out thoroughly before going public.
Another "premature ejaculation" as someone so eloquently put it.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060816/...e_evolution_dcPossible key human evolution genes identified
By Jeremy Lovell
40 minutes ago
LONDON (Reuters) - They could be the missing links of human genetic evolution -- areas of human DNA that changed dramatically after the evolutionary division from chimpanzees, though they had remained almost unchanged for millennia before.
Scientists from the United States, Belgium and France identified 49 "human accelerated regions" (HARs) showing a lot of genetic activity.
In the most active, identified as HAR1, they found 18 out of the 118 nucleotides had changed since evolutionary separation from chimps some 6 million years ago, while only two had changed in the 310 million years separating the evolutionary lines of chimps and chickens.
"Right now we have very suggestive evidence that it might be involved at a critical step in brain development, but we still need to prove that it really makes a difference," team leader David Haussler from the Howard Hughes Medical Ins ute and the University of California, Santa Cruz told Reuters.
Other members of the team came from the University of Brussels and Universite Claude Bernard in France.
"It is very exciting to use evolution to look at regions of our genome that haven't been explored yet," Haussler said.
"It is extremely unlikely that the evolution of just one region in the genome made the difference between our brains and the brains of non-human primates," he said.
"It is much more likely to be a series of many, many small changes, each very important, but none doing the entire job by itself," he added.
HAR1 is part of a novel RNA gene HAR1F that is produced during the key formative period for the human brain from seven to 19 weeks of gestation.
Not only that, but the RNA is produced by the Cajal-Retzius neuron that plays a crucial role in the six layers of neurons in the human cortex.
"We still can't say much about the function. But it's a very exciting finding because it is expressed in cells that have a fundamental role in the design and development of the mammalian cortex," Haussler said, noting the need to investigate the remaining 48 HARs.
The findings were published on Wednesday in the science journal Nature. Chris Ponting of Oxford University wrote in the same issue hailing it as a possible major step forward.
"Previously, the hunt for changes in DNA that are causally linked to human-specific biology had concentrated on differences that would alter the amino-acid make-up of the encoded protein," Ponting wrote.
"Now it would seem that searches within the functional non-coding 'dark matter' might be more enlightening," he added.
It will be very enlightening to see what we will learn about our brains and how they work from this.
Queue Boa in 3....2....1....
It still seems this team should have sat on this story for awhile. Test it out thoroughly before going public.
Another "premature ejaculation" as someone so eloquently put it.
"areas of human DNA that changed dramatically after the evolutionary division from chimpanzees, though they had remained almost unchanged for millennia before."
It's Divine intervention's invisible Hand stoopig to muck around in our DNA!!
The evidence FOR (human) evolution is piling up at astonishing rate from DNA and other micro-biological studies, while the evidence FOR literal Genesis cosmology from the childish Bible-thumpers and their Bible-scientists (akin to Repug scientists or Russian scientists) is absent.
"My pastor done told me it's so, so I believe it" ain't gonna make into to scientific journals any time soon. But it might make the 700 Club show or TBN.
Human's are very likely are the result of evolution.
God created Humans.
I believe both of these statements.
The more impossibly complex and elegent we learn life and the universe is, the more, I believe, the existence of a creator is established.
I believe in a Creator, too, just that He/She/It has been spectating since He/She/It set off the Big Bang, which according to Vedic cosmology is about the 40th in a series of Big Bangs.
I agree.
So, because this is what you believe, everybody else should also believe it?
At heart, you are a facist.
What idiot would believe a scientist over a 3000 year old, many times translated, book of text? ing morons believing in science.
"because this is what you believe, everybody else should also believe it?"
Not my position at all, but typical tactic and error from you right-wing, extremist "religious" assholes.
I believe what I want to believe, but I don't mount political campagns to force my beliefs to be taught as hard science to public school children, like you religious fascists do. I also try to make sure my beliefs are consistent with, or at least not in total conflict with rational science and logic and hard evidence.
And I figure that there is One Reality. When science and a belief are totally at odds, one of them is very probably totally wrong. In the past serveral 100 years, as rationalism and science of the Enlightement dispelled the religiously dominated Dark Ages, it has been the religious beliefs that have been shown to have been totally wrong (astrology, flat earth, geocentrism, etc).
Note that Vedantic cosmology of an oscillating universe, which was arrived at by intuition rather than rational science, is in not in conflict with Big Bang theory, whereas the Bible thumpers' 6-day Genesis cosmology is laughably absurd and evidence-free.
http://news.aol.com/strange/story/_a...990003?cid=936
BERLIN (Aug. 7) - A German scientist has been testing an "anti-stupidity" pill with encouraging results on mice and fruit flies, Bild newspaper reported Saturday.
It said Hans-Hilger Ropers, director at Max-Planck-Ins ute for Molecular Genetics in Berlin, has tested a pill thwarting hyperactivity in certain brain nerve cells, helping stabilize short-term memory and improve attentiveness.
"With mice and fruit flies we were able to eliminate the loss of short-term memory," Ropers, 62, is quoted saying in the German newspaper, which has dubbed it the "world's first anti-stupidity pill."
....and so you sit there and spout your anger at 4 in the morning showing just how remarkably bitter the human soul can get.Good job.
I don't even know which of your fallacies to address first. Which is why I won't even try. Besides, the 'bubble' you've placed around yourself was never meant to be burst from the outside; but sooner or later all your hot air will leave you exposed.
Last edited by hegamboa; 08-17-2006 at 08:34 AM.
I'll address this thread later when I'm off from work but I will point this out....
By this reasoning the DNA code is even more significant than previously thought, because now even the non-coding regions that scientists claimed could harbor hundreds of deleterious mutations without adverse effects are considered just as important to our geno/phenotypes.
Which is it then?
Truly this makes our genome that much more complex than initially thought.
It is clearly your position because anybody who opines differently gets bashed by you with your typical “repug-lover/IDer/Bible-thumper/Dubya-lover/etc/etc/etc”. That is the sign of an intolerant fascist, which is what you are.
Oh, and again, funny that you dub me as a right-wing while gtown characterizes me as a liberal.
I don’t either. Try to find a post where I did. You won’t.
I still fail to see how ID conflicts with evolution.
"I still fail to see how ID conflicts with evolution."
As you Dark Ages extremists define it, there's a conflict.
There is an Absolute En y underlying the universe, but I don't believe he mucks around "personally" with specific incarnated beings on specfic planets, nor do I need to believe in anthropomorphic "personal God", which is nothing but human hubris.
Of course, in your little bubble you are always right. I've never seen you enter an argument and at least try to listen to the other side. Your mind is already made up.
Oh well.
What about as the non-Dark Ages extremists define it? Still a conflict?
The universe is amazing and complex. So is a microwave oven. That doesn’t mean it was designed by aliens. -- Mark Jabo
In heaven, God is laughing at the "intelligent" scientists. Read the first chapter of Genesis - it tells exactly in what order all life was created.
Man, you really enjoy calling people who don't agree with you names, don't you?
The fact that some posters say I'm a liberal, and other posters, such as you, say I'm a right-wing nut, proves I'm no extremist. I'm in the middle. You, on the other hand, are called extremist by almost every poster, even the ones with liberal ideas.
In any case, there is no conflict between ID and evolution.
Says boutons, so it must be true. Everybody who differs is hanging from Dubya's nuts/suck Cheney's /is a Bible thumper/blah, blah and ing blah.
I do. Prove me I'm wrong and you are right.
Again, because you say so, it must be true.
First chapter of Genesis is not meant to be read literally.
yes, knowledge-based resistance to faith-based ignorance.
your ilk are resurrecting the Dark Ages.
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For the sake of arguement, where does it say it's not meant to be interpreted literally?
p.s. An answer of "it just isn't" will not suffice.
Silly argument.
Scratch that --- pathetic argument. It's almost as bad as when Shaq claimed his game was as undecipherable as the pythagorean theorem.
There are instruction books for building a microwave oven. Shoot, I could probably build a weak one myself with a few extra gadgets here and there. But the 'instruction manual for genetics, the universe' and a myriad of other fields is far from complete. If and when Mark Jabo produces said manual then maybe what he thought was a witty comment would have a little more substance and a lot less air.
Not every Christian is the dumb, ignorant, stupid, naive, sheepish, twerp you make them out to be señor boutons_
The constant stereotyping by 'your ilk' in an attempt to discredit our belief system is getting old.
In fact, your insistance on blaming the 'Dark Ages' solely on Christianity, is just downright ignorant.
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