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No way...
In my opinion, Dirk should get it.
Source: Nash to be MVP
Suns guard would be 10th player to win award in consecutive seasons
Paul Coro
The Arizona Republic
Apr. 26, 2006 12:00 AM
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepu...6nash0426.html
Suns star Steve Nash will be named the NBA's Most Valuable Player for a second straight season, according to a league source familiar with the voting.
The announcement may not come for two weeks, like last season's May 8 ceremony. The votes have been tabulated in what was expected to be a close race with LeBron James, Dirk Nowitzki, Chauncey Billups and Kobe Bryant.
Nash won the fourth-closest MVP vote last year, edging Shaquille O'Neal a year after Nash was not even an All-Star. advertisement
Nash, 32, impressed voters this season by posting career highs in scoring (18.8 points per game), rebounding (4.2 per game), field goal percentage (.512) and free-throw percentage (NBA-best .921). He led the league in assists again with 10.5 per game and finished sixth in three-point shooting (43.9 percent).
After Amaré Stoudemire's knee surgery deprived the Suns of their top scorer, Nash led the team to 54 wins and its first repeat division le with only Shawn Marion and Leandro Barbosa back for a full season.
Nash would be the first international and Suns player to win twice.
Only nine previous players repeated as MVP winners. Magic Johnson was the only point guard to do so.
Last edited by polandprzem; 04-26-2006 at 08:25 AM.
No way...
In my opinion, Dirk should get it.
paper is from arizona, i believe it when i see it, atm this false marketing campaign crap
IMO Nash is the most deserving.....but I really didn't think they'd give him back 2 back awards.
Well he is mentioned here or there. And he can get the most second places. You know they will be picking Kobe, Nash, James....Nowitzki, Nash, Kobe....Billups, Nash, James...
Because hmm he is changing the game when he in on the floor and that can make the jurnalist to the thinking "Hmm I won't give him the MVP, but he deserves the 2nd place in my voting" and in someone elses voting he is first like for example Hubie Brown, he said it loud that Nash in his opinion is MVP. many voters can suggest by that.
That would basically guarantee Steve Nash induction to the Hall of Fame. Now, while I don't necessarily disagree with him winning the MVP this year, has he had a HOF career?
I disagree with his back-to-back MVPs.
That right has been reserved for the very best in NBA history. He clearly isn't in that group.
If Nash has a few more seasons with his consistent stats, then maybe. it'd be nice for him to make a Finals trip with Amare, but then that'd mean he'd have to go through the Spurs and well...If Michael Jordan didn't have to share the wealth, then Tim, Manu and Tony don't have to either
... Nash at 35 can just join the Spurs, play backup point guard to Tony for their 7th Championship Ring against Lebron James.
It's also on ESPNEWS' wire - bottom of the screen.
Reports say Nash earns NBA MVP award
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2422255
PHOENIX -- Steve Nash will win his second straight NBA Most Valuable Player award, according to reports on several area newspapers.
The announcement may not come for two weeks, according to the Arizona Republic. But the paper, and others, report that the voting shows Nash edging LeBron James, Dirk Nowitzki, Chauncey Billups and Kobe Bryant for the MVP.
This season, Nash had career-highs in points (18.8 points per game), rebounds (4.2 per game), field goal percentage (51.2 percent) and free throw percentage (92.1 percent -- best in the league). He was also the league-leader in assists (10.5) and shot nearly 50 percent from three-point range.
The Suns are currently playing the Los Angeles Lakers in the first round of the Western Conference playoffs.
A year ago, Nash edged Shaquille O'Neal in what was the fourth-closest balloting in history.
Valuable. No best.
Value can only be determined for a specific player, in a specific system or on a specific team at that specific time.
The past, the future, not even the postseason is supposed to factor in to the voting. Only that regular season.
That's all there is to it.
Would have been just fine had any of the others won, but I'm very happy that a very deserving player won. In fact, I'm surprised because before the voting, I read several writers who were of this same flawed line of thought.
I won't debate that Nash isn't at the same level as the previous nine. You can't even construct an argument, but as far as value goes, his teams are 2-9 without him and score an average of 30 points fewer per game the past two years without him. Its obvious that Nash is the glue or the engine or whatever metaphor it takes to prove his importance. Without him, the Suns fall apart, or never get going, blah, blah, blah...
Amazing.
The same dude plays the same way in 2 cities. In city one, he is over-rated and ripped nationally for being soft, in city two, he is a back-to-back MVP winner….
The media has basically done it.
They don't like hard nosed defense and precisely executed plays.
They like fly by the seat of your pants shoot with 22 seconds on the shotclock basketball and that what nash makes his team good at.
Pathetic.
The whole team in city 1 was soft. So he was just part of the groupAmazing.
The same dude plays the same way in 2 cities. In city one, he is over-rated and ripped nationally for being soft, in city two, he is a back-to-back MVP winner….
damn. there goes my vBookie $$$.
I hate the argument that he's not Magic, so he doesn't deserve B2B MVPs. If he had the best season in the NBA (which it can be easily argued he did), then he's the MVP and that's it. Kobe's my pick, but Nash has been spectacular this season and is worthy of the MVP again. He's playing with a team of Marion and a bunch of (former) no-namers and he led them to 54 wins. His teammates aren't as good as what Marbury had around him when he led them to a 29-54 record. Nash alone transformed that team to a contender.
Don't be silly, Nash clearly deserves being in the Canadian Basketball Hall of Fame.
Oh wait, maybe you meant the other one...
Consecutive MVPs:
Russell (3): '61-'63
Chamberlain (3): '66-'68
Abdul-Jabbar (2): '71-'72, '76-'77
Malone (2): '82-'83
Bird (3): '84-'86
Johnson (2): '89-'90
Jordan (2): '91-'92
Duncan (2): '02-'03
Question:
Does Steve Nash deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence, nay, the same paragraph, as any of these other players who have won consecutive MVPs?
Comments:
I don't want to focus on whether or not Steve Nash deserved to win the MVP either this year or last...we'll obviously have plenty of time to debate that issue. My problem is that I don't believe Nash deserves the accolade of back-to-back MVPs. Winning again this year puts him in a class of players to which he does not belong. I think that honor is reserved for only the very best players to ever play. Look at that list...Nash's name does not deserve to be up there with Russell, Wilt, Kareem, Moses, Larry, Magic, Michael and Duncan. I think voters should take into account the historical significance of their vote instead of just looking at the current season in a vacuum.
Maybe I'm attaching too much importance to winning consecutive MVPs. But look at the people on that list...each one of them is at least top 3 all-time at their position. I don't think anyone, not even the most diehard Suns fan, would reasonably claim that Steve ing Nash is a top 3 all-time PG. I still think there is a question of whether he's in the top 10. , there are plenty of people who don't even think he is the best PG in the league right now.
If I were an MVP voter (which I'm not), and even if I believed Nash deserved to win the award this year (which I don't), I still would not have voted for him because of the historical significance of winning two straight MVPs.
Anyone agree with me?
Some voters, in fact, do consider historical significance of a player.
It is part of the reason Tim won in 2002, and the only reason why Malone got it in 1999.
JMarkJohns - You are a tool.
conqueso,
I agree. If I were an MVP voter, I would have taken that into consideration absolutely. Two MVP trophies all but guarantees Nash a place in the Hall of Fame. While he has been spectacular the last two years, and he's been solid throughout most of his career, I don't think anyone can argue that his career as a whole deserves Hall of Fame induction, especially when you look at what he's failed to do in the playoffs so far. I would have not voted for him just because of the historical significance of winning multiple League MVPs.
Kobe or LeBron deserved it this year anyway.
I don't think a player deserves MVP if they only play one part of the nba game, all Nash does is O, he plays 0 D
Maybe you could make that argument for Duncan over Garnett in 2003, but in 2002 Duncan was far and away the greatest player in the game. His numbers blew everyone away that year, and he took them to a division le with his weakest supporting cast of the TP era.
Nash has as good an argument as anyone for this year.
Should he be discounted out of hand because he won last year and some have a preconceived notion of what a b2b MVP should be?
Obviously there are people at least on this messageboard that would answer that question YES.
I would be one of them. I think you have to think historical relevance when giving out the League MVP.
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