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    I read somewhere that running for president, BHO made something like 200 promises. I wonder how many of them are unattainable to reach already, in his first year. Like
    1. Obama's stimulus bill will create or save 3.5 million jobs by 2011. Including 600000 jobs by the end of this summer.

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    Politicians make promises. Most of those promises are unrealistic. The public is stupid enough to believe them. Breaking promises isn't something unique to Obama.

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    Jobs *created or saved* probably can't be measured with reasonable accuracy anyway.

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    Politicians make promises. Most of those promises are unrealistic. The public is stupid enough to believe them. Breaking promises isn't something unique to Obama.
    You say all sorts of things to get elected. And if you win, you find yourself not infrequently pissing backwards on your own supporters.

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    That is part of the low ebb of 43's popularity. He pissed backward on the people who thought he was Moses. To say nothing of the people who for some reason assumed George W. Bush was actually conservative.

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    Politicians make promises. Most of those promises are unrealistic. The public is stupid enough to believe them. Breaking promises isn't something unique to Obama.
    HAHAHAHAHAHA. Bush response to an Obama question. Never gets old.

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    Can we focus on BHO. I realize he is a politician and they all do that. I just think Obama is the president now. He made promises. Alot of them were to buy votes. Bush had 9-11. Obama hasn't had that type of thing.
    Why does every time someone brings up Obama, Bush has to be brought up? Why do people have to talk like there are teams.

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    HAHAHAHAHAHA. Bush response to an Obama question. Never gets old.
    If you had more than one brain cell you'd realize the video is just an example of what ALL presidents have done to get elected. But you were probably held out of school by a paranoid parent who was afraid the sitting president was gonna indoctrinate you.

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    Can we focus on BHO. I realize he is a politician and they all do that. I just think Obama is the president now. He made promises. Alot of them were to buy votes. Bush had 9-11. Obama hasn't had that type of thing.
    Why does every time someone brings up Obama, Bush has to be brought up? Why do people have to talk like there are teams.
    Read the rest of my post instead of being fixated on the video I posted. Oh and Iraq had no role in 9/11.

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    Can we focus on BHO. I realize he is a politician and they all do that. I just think Obama is the president now. He made promises. Alot of them were to buy votes. Bush had 9-11. Obama hasn't had that type of thing.

    Why does every time someone brings up Obama, Bush has to be brought up? Why do people have to talk like there are teams.
    Go ahead. Focus on him. Your count of promises he won't keep stands at one so far.

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    I did read it and I was refering to you saying promise breaking was not unique of Obama. What is unique of BHO is he is the president now. Don't be so sensitive. It wasn't just aimed at you. I've noticed a few commies on spurstalk and jsut incase they were to join in.
    Iraq didn't have anything to do with 9-11 technically. But the idea that he was a security threat to america ( he said in 1979 , and reaffirmed it in the 90's that any terrorist could train in iraq as long as they targeted israelis and americans. He also gave huge amounts of money to suicide bombers) I agreed in not nation building pre 9-11. Now I don't know. Kind of like all the isolationists in pre ww2. I believe there is some middle that keeps us safe.

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    What's unique is that people care about like this now that Obama is in office.

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    I did read it and I was refering to you saying promise breaking was not unique of Obama. What is unique of BHO is he is the president now. Don't be so sensitive. It wasn't just aimed at you. I've noticed a few commies on spurstalk and jsut incase they were to join in.
    calling people commies will stoke the fires of discussion
    Iraq didn't have anything to do with 9-11 technically.
    Iraq didn't have anything to do with 9-11 literally.
    But the idea that he was a security threat to america ( he said in 1979 , and reaffirmed it in the 90's that any terrorist could train in iraq as long as they targeted israelis and americans. He also gave huge amounts of money to suicide bombers)
    Were there terrorists training in Iraq?
    I agreed in not nation building pre 9-11. Now I don't know. Kind of like all the isolationists in pre ww2. I believe there is some middle that keeps us safe.
    So because of an attack that stemmed from people not approving of us being in foreign nations, let's solve that problem by invading foreign nations. Makes sense.

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    calling people commies will stoke the fires of discussion
    Iraq didn't have anything to do with 9-11 literally.
    Were there terrorists training in Iraq?
    So because of an attack that stemmed from people not approving of us being in foreign nations, let's solve that problem by invading foreign nations. Makes sense.
    Here we go. More Bush,9/11 and Iraq....No you did not bring Bush up by coincidence.

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    Here we go. More Bush,9/11 and Iraq....No you did not bring Bush up by coincidence.
    You're right. It wasn't coincidence. See if you can figure out why on earth I would've chosen a video of Bush. Work your brain muscle.

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    No they are self-proclaimed commies.
    Mogadishu did not have anything to do with 9-11 technically, but really when clinton move the troops out because they got hit, it motivated OBL. OBL said he knew Al Qeda would prevail because US had not heart. That is what I mean by Iraq didn't technically, that we know of.
    Do you think there were not terrorists training from 1979 to 2001 who helped, trained, or financed any of the terrorist groups at war with us b4 9-11? USS Cole? Embassy bombings? WTC ?
    Don't belittle my opinion because you don't understand it. That is rule #1 in Liberal talk but we do not need it here. I did not completely explain my stand on nation building. I don't need to. I vote for the people I believe have the best grasp of the problem facing america. they come up with the ideas. I think it makes less sense that because people attack us and we d o nothing that the answer is to do more of nothing.

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    Do you think there were not terrorists training from 1979 to 2001 who helped, trained, or financed any of the terrorist groups at war with us b4 9-11? USS Cole? Embassy bombings? WTC ?
    I dunno. do you have proof there were?
    Don't belittle my opinion because you don't understand it.
    I understand it. I just think it's a little naive.

    What was the purpose of this thread exactly? To try and come up with every single promise Obama has broken? Talk about being butthurt.

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    dunno why you bring up bush

    but the time when he was president, there was no other better suiters during his stint as president to be replace, thats how lame it was and ty candidates from all parties....

    its like you goto vote on party policies, but that party has a fkn leader so you dont vote for him, but look at the next hot person and vote for them....

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    I dunno. do you have proof there were?
    I understand it. I just think it's a little naive.

    What was the purpose of this thread exactly? To try and come up with every single promise Obama has broken? Talk about being butthurt.
    Yes. That is exactly what this thread was. Nothing so terrible as a list of promises that bho made but after 10 months, if it took him the rest of his presidency, would not be able to make. What is my view that you believe is naive?
    Proof terrorists were training in Saddam's Iraq
    http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...kmbzd.asp?pg=1
    Read about what the press was saying in the 90's about the links between Iraq and AQ http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/ne...9/posts?page=1

    Growing evidence of AQ/Iraq link: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/946997/posts

    Saddam and Bin Laden vs. the World: http://www.guardian.co.uk/alqaida/st...798270,00.html

    Saddam link to bin Laded: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/866105/posts

    The Al Qaeda connections: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/866105/posts

    NYT - 1998 - OBL and Iraq agree to cooperate:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/985906/posts

    Do ent links AQ and Iraq: http://www.nationalreview.com/robbins/robbins091903.asp

    Iraq and terrorism: http://www.nationalreview.com/robbins/robbins091903.asp

    WSJ - Iraq and AQ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/987129/posts

    Iraq and Iran contact AQ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/981055/posts

    Proof Saddam worked with AQ: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...F27%2Fwalq27.x ml

    Saddam's AQ Connection:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/969032/posts

    Terrorist killed in Iraq after refusing to train Al Qaeda terrorists:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...5/wnidal25.xml

    Osama's Best Friend: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1007969/posts

    Case Closed - OBL and Iraq agree to work together:http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...3/378fmxyz.asp

    Terrorist behind 9/11 trained in Iraq:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/ne...posts?page=154

    The Clinton view of Iraq/AQ ties: http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...3/527uwabl.asp

    Saddam's ties to terror: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1005579/posts

    NYT - tape shows Wesley Clark tying AQ and Iraq: Linkhttp://tennessean.com/nation-world/archives/03/06/34908297.shtml?Element_ID=34908297http://tennessean.com/nation-world/archives/03/06/34908297.shtml?Element_ID=34908297

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    Why are you putting so much emphasis on Bush, spursncowboys?

    I thought that was what you wanted to get away from.

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    This really does take being butthurt to a new level.

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    Why are you putting so much emphasis on Bush, spursncowboys?

    I thought that was what you wanted to get away from.
    Your right winehole.

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    Go ahead. Focus on him. Your count of promises he won't keep stands at one so far.
    There are way more than that.

    I will not hire lobbyists, hires lobbyist Daschle (he's out but here are the others)....Broken
    * Melody Barnes, lobbyist for American Civil Liberties Union, the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights, the American Cons ution Society and the Center for Reproductive Rights.
    * William Corr, lobbyist for Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids,
    * Patrick Gaspard, lobbyist for Service Employees International Union.
    * David Hayes, lobby San Diego Gas & Electric.
    * Eric Holder, attorney general nominee, lobbyist for bankrupt Global Crossing telecommications.
    * Ron Klain, lobbyist for Asbestos Resolution, U.S. Airways, Airborne Express and drug-maker ImClone.
    * William Lynn, lobbyist for Raytheon.
    * Cecilia Munoz, lobbyist for National Council of La Raza
    * Mark Patterson, lobbyist for Goldman Sachs.
    * Mona Sutphen, lobbyist for Angliss International.
    * Michael Strautmanis, lobbied for the American Association of Justice.
    * Tom Vilsack, lobbyist for NEA.

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    There are way more than that.

    I will not hire lobbyists, hires lobbyist Daschle (he's out but here are the others)....Broken
    * Melody Barnes, lobbyist for American Civil Liberties Union, the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights, the American Cons ution Society and the Center for Reproductive Rights.
    * William Corr, lobbyist for Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids,
    * Patrick Gaspard, lobbyist for Service Employees International Union.
    * David Hayes, lobby San Diego Gas & Electric.
    * Eric Holder, attorney general nominee, lobbyist for bankrupt Global Crossing telecommications.
    * Ron Klain, lobbyist for Asbestos Resolution, U.S. Airways, Airborne Express and drug-maker ImClone.
    * William Lynn, lobbyist for Raytheon.
    * Cecilia Munoz, lobbyist for National Council of La Raza
    * Mark Patterson, lobbyist for Goldman Sachs.
    * Mona Sutphen, lobbyist for Angliss International.
    * Michael Strautmanis, lobbied for the American Association of Justice.
    * Tom Vilsack, lobbyist for NEA.
    Do you have the text of that promise?

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    I quite smoking (admits to bumming cigarettes)...........................Broken

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