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    I'm not necessarily sold on Salaun, but I would factor fit in more so in this scenario.

    I'd probably do the trade. We all know Young's flaws, but no team is perfect and I see this as a case where they should take advantage of things seemingly lining up for them.

    Wembanyama is too good to wait around hoping to luck into a better sidekick in the supposed loaded at the top '25 and '26 drafts or on the trade market.

    Not only are the odds slim of getting those players, but then there's the question of whether they'd be a better fit than Young. Also, in the case of the future picks, how long, if at all until they live up to their potential.

    The Spurs would still have extra picks and if all else fails, Young will always have resale value to recoup most of what's sent out.
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    I truly believe (well, Pop litterally suggested that) spurs see Devin and Keldon as long term pieces around Wemby and will stick to them as long as they can, with Devin as basically untouchable...

    I've said here how little affection I have for Trae (bad locker room guy, doesn't make his teammates better) but when you see Wemby still putting a performance like last night, and considering the lack of opportunities and perspectives a team like SA could have in the near/middle term as far as getting as star PG, I'm slowly warming up to the idea.

    Wemby's greatness could hopefully make Trae realize the opportutniy he has to belong to a great adventure and adapt his game and at ude to accept (would he have the choice?), this is Wemby's team and he has to make "sacrifices" so they both could benefit from that.. That's where I actually would Trust Pop for the credit he has among players and his ability to deal with "high ego players" to make them buy into spurs philosophy and project... Ill' admit seeing Trae say he feels for Wemby got me intrigued ...

    I just believe this team would need another respected vet with strong personality to frame all that and act as a buffer between the two and just show this roster how you win games in the NBA. Add Trae, plus some defensice specialist vet to push and kick these kds asses in practice and locker room, and that team could be fun to watch if they gel, eventually attracting more quality vets with time (another pro to bring Trae in).

    Imagining spurs simply adding new rookies next June and running the same roster next season is really depressing.
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    I thought Cam Boozer was supposed to be in the 2026 draft class, next year it's Flagg and others
    Boozer is 2026, as is Wemby’s brother.

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    Young has made more positive comments regarding Wemby than just about any other non-Spurs player in the league including comments that Wemby has all the tools to be the best player in the history of the league. If he actually believes that then he won't have a problem being the 2nd option. I think that will make a big difference in at ude and being a team player.

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    I thought Cam Boozer was supposed to be in the 2026 draft class, next year it's Flagg and others
    yes, you're right. boozer and his twin brother will be the draft class of '26.

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    Judging by the fact that this Jazz fan is tweeting about Trae's D... my guess is that Jazz fans are also debating whether or not Young should be an acquisition target

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    I think Quinn would actually prefer this that is why he pushed for keeping DJ at the deadline. With DJ salary and JJ rookie deal they could be a build a depth team like NY and he can finally implement his system that can attract other players.

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    The Spurs should get Trae Young if they can.

    1. Trae would be ready to play immediately, no delay of 2 or 3 years to develop a rookie (who might end up not working out, btw.)

    2. If Trae, himself, didn’t work out after 2 seasons he would then be on an expiring contract (albeit a high dollar one.) Trae should be tradable unless the Spurs find some marvelously ingenious way to ruin his value, which I would hope not.

    3. It’s possible a draft pick could provide a better player than Trae, but the probability is not high. If the Spurs do get that lucky, Trae’s contract is not forever, as mentioned, and Trae could play as the future superstar develops.

    4. Most important, Wemby would gain “star” help to develop his own game, in this important early stage of his career.

    So if a sane way can be found to do it, then do it. As far as what it would take, that’s a matter of negotiation. It depends on the Hawks’ plans, which are unknown on this side of the table.

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    hawks fans on the internets have been saying for most of the season that trae has been busting his ass on defense more than ever this year while murray has actually shown less intensity on that end. he still has his physical limitations, but with his offense generation, all you can really ask for his effort
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    while some people (myself included) are holding out hope that Vassell can blossom into a legit #2 player in the mold of Middleton, landing Trae removes the need for that and he would comfortably settle into a #3 role with not only Wemby's gravity providing space, but also Trae's pressure collapsing the defense as well

    Trae isn't perfect, and ST has long said its really hard to build around him, which is true when he's the #1 as he is in ATL. wouldn't be the case here.

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    Trae sucks at defense but is offensive power house. Nothing new here. Young and Wemby will be special on offense and ok on defense because Wemby will be generational on defense.

    Don’t over think it.

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    if you can land Trae while keeping Vassell and still retaining at least 1 first in each draft, you have to strongly consider it

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    just pull the trigger.

    overpaying is fine. what could the spurs have gotten if they traded the pick landed them primo ?

    trae seems like someone who could be happy with the spurs.

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    Hawks get a full refund on the DJM trade plus they have to take back one of Keldon or Zollins to keep the book relatively clean. If the Hawks are feeling frisky maybe they can swap the Raps pick and the Hawks pick this year while taking back Zollins in addition to Keldon so the books would stay pristine.

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    the top two picks (boozer and flagg) will be highly coveted. but there are some other potential standouts in the 25 draft as well.
    Thanks man

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    Young might be the best lob thrower in the NBA. Wemby would get so many alley-oops it would be crazy. That pick & roll would be unguardable and Vassell would get open 3s all the time. It's a no brainer. All the Spurs need to add is a high level 3-and-D SF to complete the starting 5. With 4 positive defenders starting they should be able to hide Young on defense.

    Besides from what I'm counting we'll have our own, the ATL, CHI, CHA picks plus the Raptors pick if it won't convert this year in 2025. Giving ATL their pick back won't be a huge loss, how many players do you want to draft?

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    Judging by the fact that this Jazz fan is tweeting about Trae's D... my guess is that Jazz fans are also debating whether or not Young should be an acquisition target
    No homerism but if I'm Trae and I have the choice (I''m sure he'll have a say, stars can dictate where they're going nowadays) between spending there rest of my prime years with Markkanen or Wemby....

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    Young might be the best lob thrower in the NBA. Wemby would get so many alley-oops it would be crazy. That pick & roll would be unguardable and Vassell would get open 3s all the time. It's a no brainer. All the Spurs need to add is a high level 3-and-D SF to complete the starting 5. With 4 positive defenders starting they should be able to hide Young on defense.

    Besides from what I'm counting we'll have our own, the ATL, CHI, CHA picks plus the Raptors pick if it won't convert this year in 2025. Giving ATL their pick back won't be a huge loss, how many players do you want to draft?
    What your actually saying is Wemby would get 1 lob per 10 screens and Devin would stand in the corner and shoot a wide open three once every 10 possesions.

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    Beck: "One exec said Atlanta discussed a potential Young trade with San Antonio before last week's deadline."

    Bored by the NBA Trade Deadline? Let Speculation Season Begin. - The Ringer

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    Young averages 10 assists and his offensive talent would keep defenses honest. When you look at how much better the Spurs got with Jones inserted in the lineup, imagine that X10 with someone like Young.

    The opt out is the only thing I’d be concerned about. Otherwise if you can make that deal you do in a minute. Who would the Spurs get that’s better? A 3-5 year project PG with no guarantee of a payoff?

    Feels like a good fit to me. Wemby and Devin would benefit immensely. Then the Spurs just focus on 3 and D guys and the rebuild is complete.

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    If Atlanta decides to trade Young I don't see how he gets trade it other than to the Spurs as I don't think they will get equal talent from any other team.

    I would not be completely sold on Young but seeing how far along Wemby is on development I say the Spurs have to make a serious push for Young this summer.

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    while some people (myself included) are holding out hope that Vassell can blossom into a legit #2 player in the mold of Middleton, landing Trae removes the need for that and he would comfortably settle into a #3 role with not only Wemby's gravity providing space, but also Trae's pressure collapsing the defense as well

    Trae isn't perfect, and ST has long said its really hard to build around him, which is true when he's the #1 as he is in ATL. wouldn't be the case here.
    I somewhat agree with this but if Atlanta is keeping Dejonte it would make sense to ask for Devin and picks for Young. Devin is a good fit next to Dejonte.

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    I somewhat agree with this but if Atlanta is keeping Dejonte it would make sense to ask for Devin and picks for Young. Devin is a good fit next to Dejonte.
    sure, but that makes it less worthwhile for the spurs as well. the spurs can try to patiently build around wemby, who just turned 20. if they are going to make an aggressive move for guard in his prime, then giving their next best player up in exchange doesnt really compute. you'd send keldon/collins and draft picks. return both ATL picks, send them the TOR/CHA picks or something like that

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    Interesting development that apparently the Spurs and Hawks have already discussed it.

    I would not want to give up Devin, but I generally agree with BacktoBasics that it would be logical that the Hawks would ask for him in return, since the Hawks wouldn't be tearing it down, rather just changing directions around DJM.

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