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Who do you actually like?
I think he's smaller than people think. He has a long neck and a big head. Heel to shoulder he might be Bryn Forbes sized.
I think he's slow. He looks faster because everyone else in the Adriatic is not exactly fast. Sure, he might, might be able to get where he wants at the next level, but I'm skeptical.
Not really explosive athletically, not that big ... I hope he proves me wrong, I haven't watched that much anyway
Who do you actually like?
As far as PG I think I still like Castle he has the size can play defense and he gets to the rim and can handle the contact. But as Bruno mentioned the kid from Pittsburgh- Carlton Carrington had another good game against Florida where he scored 14pts, 7assist, and 4 rebounds - he definitely is now on everyone radar.
On a side not Ja'Kobe Walter had another great offensive game where he had 24pts, 4 rebounds, and drum roll..........3 assists. If he can show his court vision is getting better I think he will be a top 5 pick..
why did the Bucks play Giannis as a point guard and then make him a forward again?
are they really admitting that Giannis at the point was never a long term goal?
maybe, I don’t even know, they wanted him to develop perimeter skills
Stephon Castle, Rob Dillingham.
we may need to draft two guards....cause braham,wesley and jones are bad and
holding this team back
It's early, but I like Castle and Proctor..
What Topic is doing in Europe is impressive. It's not every year a player that young is able to produce at that level.
Saying that, I don't view him as a candidate for a top5 pick, he looks more like a mid first round pick to me, that is to say an option for the Raptors pick. I have some doubts on his ability to translate his game to the NBA. He should be a defensive liability and his pick and roll game should be less efficient than in Europe against NBA athleticism. His poor outside shoot is also an issue. A lot a talented white euro PG have struggled to make the NBA transition, I fear he might be the next one.
Bleachers Report just came out with a new mock where they have Topic going #2 to Washington Wizards, and they have us taking Isiah Collier at #3, and then have us taking Carlton Carrington at # 10 (Raptors Pick). Interesting picks and I know in the grand scheme this means nothing but always interesting to read new mocks.
I have no idea what the Spurs are going to do and with Pop seemingly loosing touch with reality who knows what is going to happen. But so far I would say the following will be strong considered with first pick;
Collier PG
Castile PG
Carrington PG
Z Risacher SF
Ja'Kobe Walter SG
Sarr C
Raptors Pick;
Topic PG
Proctor PG
Cody Williams SF
Aaron Bradshaw C
Your ignorance is showing. Predraft scouting reports on Giannis said that he had point guard skills already.
The Bucks put Giannis at point for a while to benefit from skills he already had.
"Your ignorance is showing" you should say it out loud in front of the mirror
PrEdRaFt ScOuTiNg RePoRtS and what he showed on the court are two different things
he wasn't even a top 25 starting point guard, just like Sochan is now
Jeremy's PrEdRaFt ScOuTiNg RePoRtS also highlighted his upside and flashes in the skills important to a point guard (ballhandling, driving, midrange, passing ability, playmaking)
Yes, you should, but you aren’t honest enough to do so.
I think Topic will end up being a top 5 pick in a meh draft and him being the Spurs pick. I think he will get a lot of hype going into a draft especially if he is rumored to play for Crvena Zvezda (Hanga's team) in January.
Spurs need to grab the best talent available with their natural pick. Could be that it’s Collier which addresses the PG gap, but may also be Holland, Matas, or Sarr depending on how things shake out. Bottom line there are just too many talent gaps to be worried about one position over the other.
The Raptor pick can allow them the chance to grab a specialist/position of need. Like Proctor from Duke (PG) or Dunn for UVa (defensive wing).
We need a wing. KJ at the 3 and Malaki just craters our D. If we are drafting a PG has to either shoot the out of the ball or guard 3 positions. No traditional lead guard. Guys like George and Cason are the new age points not poop henderson or amen.
Jared McCain. Sounds like a player Brian would like. Well adjusted. Does yoga and meditation every morning. Played Lacrosse. I know nothing about his actual basketball talent yet. Ha.
collier is averaging more turnovers then assist....We dont want another pg who turns the ball over almst 7 times a game....and im not
sold on his shooting....Reminds me of another scoot henderson
Not to be completely dismissive of your point but a young pg turning the ball over is way less of a concern than one that struggles to facilitate and create offense. Collier does both really well. The turnovers should solve itself with age and experience.
Is there a precedent to successful nba point guards with AS:TO < 1? I'm legitimately curious. Westbrook and Curry were both at exactly 1 their freshman year I guess. I worry that it's only going to get worse with better compe ion he faces later in the year.
I’d have to look for better examples but right off the top of my head Jason Williams comes to mind. He was a turnover machine with Sacramento but eventually turned it around with the grizzlies and had a pretty good run with the Heat and ringed.
Jason Williams was at almost 2:1 in college. Rookie year in Sacramento he was also at 2:1. 2nd year he still was around 2:1 with 7.3 assists to 3.7 turnovers.
What was it on the Heat championship team? But I do see what you’re saying nonetheless.
Carlton Carrington: Coach's son. 2nd cousin of Rudy Gay. Interesting.
Almost 3:1 in 2006 I think. I haven't done enough digging yet in players' A:TO during their pro careers, and I get that using a single metric is a pretty bad idea to judge anyone without appropriate tape. Just because someone has a high ratio it doesn't say anything about their future success as a pro. But I do think that a very bad A:TO in college is probably a negative predictor for success in the nba, especially if one of your big strengths is supposedly as a facilitator and you have the ball in your hands all the time.
Obviously less is better but a slightly high TO rate also becomes more tolerable if you’re a volume scorer with good efficiency.
We lack volume scoring and play making despite our teams high amount of assists.
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