2023 NBA Free Agency Thread - June 30 @ 5 pm CDT

[spurraider21]

LOL @ spurraider21, I knew it would be him before even looking it up

its gonna be a good meme for a while tbh

[exstatic]

he hit 42.5% of them last year, higher than his career average

It had been a steady decline for 4-5 years before that. I don’t trust a one year bump on a downgrade, especially going into extension eligibility. Call it the Bonzi Wells effect. If you go through his career stats, you can very easily pick out which years were contract ones.

[spurraider21]

It had been a steady decline for 4-5 years before that. I don’t trust a one year bump on a downgrade, especially going into extension eligibility. Call it the Bonzi Wells effect. If you go through his career stats, you can very easily pick out which years were contract ones.

He just hit 42.5% in a non contract year. He’s hit under 39% exactly one season in his career

[exstatic]

He just hit 42.5% in a non contract year. He’s hit under 39% exactly one season in his career

Back in Bonzi's day, extensions were crap, much lower than a new deal. Now, there isn't as much difference, so the extension eligible year is the one to show out if you're otherwise unmotivated.

[spurraider21]

Back in Bonzi's day, extensions were crap, much lower than a new deal. Now, there isn't as much difference, so the extension eligible year is the one to show out if you're otherwise unmotivated.

im not talking about bonzi wells

buddy hield is coming off a season shooting 42.5% from 3 and was not in a contract year. he has shot under 39% from 3 exactly one season in his 7 years in the league. if you are going to call "extension eligible years" contract years then you're just watering your claim down since youre basically doubling the amount of years that can be considered contract years

[ChumpDumper]

I’m not in the habit of randomly posting players statlines

There won't be anything random about it. That's why I asked.

[spurraider21]

There won't be anything random about it. That's why I asked.

i wont be starting a jimmer tracker type thread, dont worry

[ChumpDumper]

i wont be starting a jimmer tracker type thread, dont worry

I didn't say it would be a thread.

[spurraider21]

I didn't say it would be a thread.

are you looking for a commitment right now on how many times i will discuss stats of another nba player over the course of the upcoming season?

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Masai Ujiri throwing Siakam under the bus unprompted on media day

[Mr. Body]

Chatter picking up about Harden to the Clippers. LAC can't offer much (and won't). They seem to be trying to get more draft assets than an unprotected FRP and a swap but I doubt there's anything in it for the Spurs. Earlier in the summer I was interested in peeling off Plumlee or even Zubac -- they're in money as a team -- but the Spurs seem pretty pat right now.

[CGD]

Chatter picking up about Harden to the Clippers. LAC can't offer much (and won't). They seem to be trying to get more draft assets than an unprotected FRP and a swap but I doubt there's anything in it for the Spurs. Earlier in the summer I was interested in peeling off Plumlee or even Zubac -- they're in money as a team -- but the Spurs seem pretty pat right now.

Im sure the Harden camp is desperate to gin up whatever they can.

[Mr. Body]

Im sure the Harden camp is desperate to gin up whatever they can.

Absolutely. It's even worse than with Lillard, though. Same thing with publicly wanting only one team. That team has barely anything to give. And Harden has shoved himself off three teams in four years, is older, and you have to build an offense around him pounding the out of the ball.

[exstatic]

Chatter picking up about Harden to the Clippers. LAC can't offer much (and won't). They seem to be trying to get more draft assets than an unprotected FRP and a swap but I doubt there's anything in it for the Spurs. Earlier in the summer I was interested in peeling off Plumlee or even Zubac -- they're in money as a team -- but the Spurs seem pretty pat right now.

Morey must have been pissed at the Dame trade, where the direct haul was one FRP and two swaps. He'll just have to realize that it's harder work these days, and that he might have to take players, and flip them for further assets.

[scott]

Morey also has to contend with the inconvenient fact that no one really wants Harden

[BacktoBasics]

Morey also has to contend with the inconvenient fact that no one really wants Harden

He’s been miserable almost everywhere he’s played. It’s looking more and more like he’s miles away from putting a positive stamp on the end of his career. I do think Morey probably led him to believe certain things by opting in. Perhaps an outline of a deal in place etc. But there wasn’t a strong FA market for him to begin with unless he was going to take a massive paycut.

[scott]

Don’t have time to look for it now, but apparently the story from Houston was that a Max contract was a done deal, but Harden stated his top goal was to be scoring champ so Ime said that and pulled the offer.

[JPB]

Don’t have time to look for it now, but apparently the story from Houston was that a Max contract was a done deal, but Harden stated his top goal was to be scoring champ so Ime said that and pulled the offer.

Not sure Ime would really have a say here tbh.

[scott]

Not sure Ime would really have a say here tbh.

https://www.si.com/nba/2023/10/04/ro...mbitions-clear

Definitely more skeptical of this story since its coming from Stephen A

[JPB]

https://www.si.com/nba/2023/10/04/ro...mbitions-clear

Definitely more skeptical of this story since its coming from Stephen A

The "if true" to start the last paragraph and other "perhaps", plus the sensational way the article is written definitely makes you pause... But who knows, even though I really have a hard time believing Ime would force a willing HOU FO to renounce the trade. I mean like any coach he could be fired at the end of the season, or even before, if things are going bad (or he bangs another personal member). They may ask their coach's opinion, but that kind of trade is ultimately only validated (or not) by GMs and owners (Pop aside) if you ask me. Not to mention the fragile position Ime was before being hired by Houston. Not sure he would already have that kind of power.

[buttsR4rebounding]

The "if true" to start the last paragraph and other "perhaps", plus the sensational way the article is written definitely makes you pause... But who knows, even though I really have a hard time believing Ime would force a willing HOU FO to renounce the trade. I mean like any coach he could be fired at the end of the season, or even before, if things are going bad (or he bangs another personal member). They may ask their coach's opinion, but that kind of trade is ultimately only validated (or not) by GMs and owners (Pop aside) if you ask me. Not to mention the fragile position Ime was before being hired by Houston. Not sure he would already have that kind of power.

It wasn’t a trade. It was a free agent signing. Houston had cap room. There was nothing to renounce. And Ime is seen as a savior of sorts in Houston. Especially during this “honeymoon” stage he may very well have some juice in regards to team construction.

[John B]

It doesn’t seem long ago when Harden forced his way out of Houston, deliberately playing lousy badketball and Houston would want him back??

[John B]

Kai Jones requested to be traded?

I have officially requested to be traded from the Charlotte Hornets. #GOATLIFE Per his twitter

I don’t know how to paste those twitter

[buttsR4rebounding]

Kai Jones requested to be traded?

I have officially requested to be traded from the Charlotte Hornets. #GOATLIFE Per his twitter

I don’t know how to paste those twitter

Might be worth a far out 2nd and hook him up with Primo’s shrink. What could go wrong?

[exstatic]

Kai Jones is one of the biggest nothingburgers in the NBA. He got drafted because he can jump high.