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Castle then risacher then sheppard (i don't count sarr)
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Castle then risacher then sheppard (i don't count sarr)
I got Risacher at #1, Castle #2
Last call for votes before I make the next thread.
Tossup between Castle and Risacher...gun to my head, probably Castle
Wow I’m surprised so many people have Risacher number 1 overall. I don’t dislike him but I’m still looking for the highest upside players if I’m the Spurs
I didn't vote for him, but I get it. We started Julian Champagnie at the 3 last year. Every prospect playing that position has questionable shooting or defense, except for him. If he's locked into a "3&D" floor, that's still pretty useful for this team.
I don't either. Guessing it's just people who have seen amateur mocks and think he's a better player than he is.
If the team goes for Risacher and misses Castle that'll be a big mistake.
Potentially useful is not what you want from a high lottery pick. I still don't see what Risacher does much better than Julian to warrant the #4.
I voted for Castle, but Risacher would be my second choice.
He's the only player in this draft with three most important skills in today's game.
Size, shooting and defense.
Risacher's self creation isn't strong and I don't want the Spurs to burn a top draft pick for a sf with poor self creation. Spurs need the 2 and 3 to be strong self creators on offense.
Size. What does he use this for? Getting shots off, otherwise not much? Wingspan is just okay, not a rebounder.
Defense. His advanced numbers are actually poor, but eye test he's pretty good. Far from a stopper or much different than a Cody Williams, imm, a positional defender rather than a plus defender.
Shooting. Not sure I believe in this. I can easily see it not translating, in which case what do you even have here? If he is a good shooter at the next level, we're not looking at a Klay Thompson, we're not looking at a volume scorer.
Just dunno. I'd be fine taking him at 8, but probably not over a guy like Carter. I would only be okay taking him at 4 if we get a better player at 8. Really think Risacher is around 8-10 in this draft.
Yes
I would take Castle at 4 over Risacher. Spurs will find a better SF in the 25 draft which is stacked with SF.
Defense? He's not a big wing, but he's the only wing with defensive upside and a reliable shot.
Eye test is way more important for defense, imo. And he was a teenager defending pros in a serious league.Defense. His advanced numbers are actually poor, but eye test he's pretty good. Far from a stopper or much different than a Cody Williams, imm, a positional defender rather than a plus defender.
He can develop into a very good defender.
This is just whataboutism.Shooting. Not sure I believe in this. I can easily see it not translating, in which case what do you even have here? If he is a good shooter at the next level, we're not looking at a Klay Thompson, we're not looking at a volume scorer.
His shot not translating is a valid concern, but if you're concerned about his shot not translating, then you can't be positive about Castle ever developing a shot. Either or.
His 35% from deep doesn't look amazing, but 45% of his shots were from 3pt. As I said in Salaun topic, that's whay different from someone being left wide open, dared to shoot and still barely shooting 30%.
He most likely won't develop into an elite 3pt shooter, but chances of him becoming an elite shooter are certainly bigger than Castle/Holland becoming solid shooters.
Every single player in this draft has huge question marks. It's up to PATFO to decide who can develop the best. That's what they're paid for. We're just fans making projections based off very limited data.
I didn't say POTENTIALLY useful. His skill set IS useful as a base to build from. Every other wing in this range requires projection to get to his baseline. And, don't forget this kid is also still just 19. It's not like he doesn't have a pathway or timeline to project beyond role player.
Castle isn't exciting for me at 4 at all. Another guy who will pass up open 3's, everyone will sag off of him and that will be good enough to shut him down if he has the ball, they'll learn in 2 or 3 possessions that he's looking to cut off ball and that will be that ... no thanks.
Risacher all day. At least he can burn you from 3 and play defense and is French. Wemby running with another Frenchman has value points.
No it doesn't.
Draft the best players regardless where they are from.
Don't think people are writing off Shepperd. I just don't think there is a realistic way for the Spurs to get in front of Houston to get him.
In the locker room, it does - two young men from the same country in a far away place striking up a friendship is almost a cliche. You're tactless but even you should know that.
Now, I agree that we should draft the BPA, regardless of country of origin. Part of being the BPA is potential for high chemistry on and off the court with our young French superstar.
It's like saying the Robinson/Rodman relationship in the locker room shouldn't matter. In a vacuum, sure. In real life, we all know what actually happened.
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