I'm willing to wait until the trade deadline but each second Bonner is still with the team is just ing torture. Whatever happens during the season, is there any chance a team would take him in a trade at the deadline? Or is Neal and/or Blair pretty much our only trade pieces we will have?
If that's the case let's see where we stand:
PG] Parker (1) Mills (2) De Colo (3) Joseph (4)
SG] Ginobili (5) Green (6) Neal (7)
SF] Jackson (8) Leonard (9)
PF] Duncan (10) Bonner (11)
C] Diaw (12) Splitter (13) Blair (14)
That leaves the 15th spot for Denmon or an anonymous big.
He does rock the +/-. People say he makes others better by standing still 25 feet from the basket, but to me, that just goes against all common sense.
He helps others by standing around on the job?
To me players who make other players better impact statistics in many areas, not just +/-. I would argue that instead of making others better - others make him look better than he is. When paired with the Big 3 (a hall of fame trio) and drawing his man out of the paint slightly, he allows other good players to play well. But does he actually consistently make significant plays on his own? Of course not. He's a nice guy. But a robot who plays mechanically at best, like a wuss at worst.
It'll be a team with all of the players with it from day one, and a full training camp for everyone.
It also wouldn't surprise me to see any of the following players gone in trade:
Blair
Neal
Bonner
and if Scola clears waivers and signs...
Splitter
What do you guys really think they're going to get for Blair?? If it was anything more than a washing machine don't you think he'd be gone already...he's on the team because no one has offered them squat! Why would that change all of a sudden?
Apparently, they're asking for a 1st rounder, according to GS. They'll likely settle for less.
No way in is Joseph on the team if he is then we know RC is hitting the good stuff.
Please for the love of God get rid of Boner!!
Assuming no further changes are made, the Spurs will 13 of the 14 from the 2012 roster coming back for 2013, (just swapping out Anderson for De Colo).
If that's the case I would think that's a first in modern day NBA.
The 2012 roster was one of the best in Spurs history, even with Ginger Choker on board.
Can't be worse than the 2004 roster, tbh...
I'm not following. That '04 team was nice.
In addition to the big 3 and Bruce, you had Rasho, Malik, Robert Horry, Mercer and Hedo.... Uh okay maybe not then.
04 squad was solid but also had a 6'10" choker... right...
I don't know how people about a roster that got us to a WCF.
If the Thunder role player didn't play out of their mind, we would have seen the Spurs in the finals with a chance against Miami.
Staying with what we got (exception of Bonner being a part of this roster) bodes well for the short term future. This is it. Live with it.
"Definition of 'Insanity': Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. -Einstein"
Well mate, this isn't strictly true when you consider the variables are potentially different. The likes of Boris, Kawhi and Tiago will have a full training camp to become more acclimatised to the system. Our rotation could look different with Mills potentially getting the backup PG minutes instead of Neal. Green might be more consistent and allow for Manu to stay with the second unit etc...
There's other factors to consider such as matchups and injuries. OKC might get knocked off by another team before we play them.
Also, as The Cobra mentioned a few posts earlier the Spurs aren't necessarily done making moves.
But manu and Duncan could offset all the positives and further decline. Also other teams will be upgraded and better. And that is not taking into account possible injuries to key players.
Every year is different.
Favorable matchups got he Spurs to the WCF. They don't reach the WCF if they had to take the road OK City had. No coincidence the first tough playoff team the spurs faced they lose.
You need to exchange Denmon for Joeseph.
I think that's what makes every year exciting and the hope for something special. You never know what could happen (unless a team has an atrocious roster like last year's Bobcats team of course!).
his game could save if he was clutch. statistically, his post d while ugly, is superb. if he could hit 3s when it counted or in the postseason at all, we would be adoring the red out of his stupid little headBonner in full effect!!!! Damn i hate his game...........
Joseph has a guaranteed contract. They're not going to just eat that money, even if it means another year in Austin, and eventual dismissal next summer.
What makes you say this? In the first round, the Spurs beat a 36-30 Jazz team while the Thunder beat a 36-30 Mavs team. In the second round, the Spurs beat a 40-26 Clippers team while the Thunder beat a 41-25 Lakers team.
I suspect you're looking just at the names on the opponents' jerseys (Mavs, Lakers) and not at how good they actually were.
I don't think so. Joseph's guaranteed money isn't all that much. I think if they find Denmon (or any other player) to be substantially better, they'd be fine with cutting Joseph loose.
The Spurs FO doesn't seem like the type that makes moves with the idea just being to save face. They actually kind of seem like the opposite, like they don't give a flying **** about what the rest of the world thinks (in a good way).
No need to cut Joseph loose if they want to sign Denmon. They have the roster space.
This has got to be the year that Pop goes back to focusing on defense. With Green, Leonard, Diaw, TP, TD we should be able to play good defense. No more RJ and Blair in the SL to weaken the defense. We just need to practice playing good defense and we've got to stop giving up open shots. We have good enough defenders to not have to allow non contested shots.
I think he is saying "Joseph sucks and RC was stupid to draft him and he should play in the D-League for another three years before we even look at him". So scratch his name off the Spurs roster spot...I am just guessing.....
The Joseph pick, even at the time, was the most puzzling Spurs pick in the past 10 years. Even though Anderson didn't work out, that was as much due to the injury as anything else, and it's easy to go back and understand why they did it.
With Joseph, nobody really seems to have any idea what they were thinking or why they did it. The Spurs have long had godfather status with their draft picks, meaning, it seems like any pick they make must be right, even if nobody else knows or understands why. But Joseph was the first head-scratcher.
Obviously we all hope we're proven wrong, as has happened many times before.
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