2020 NBA Free Agency Thread: Expected Timeline for Spurs Moves

[timvp]

It's much more difficult than usual to predict the timing of events during the NBA's free agency period. In this post-pandemic hellscape, the offseason has been miniaturized so there's a lot going on at the same time. However, although teams will understandably be in a rush, the NBA insists that they will enforce tampering rules more than ever -- which could cause teams to obey or, more likely, delay their announcements of completed signings and trades.

That said, here's a basic outline of what to expect -- and how it will impact the Spurs.

Nov. 20 @ 5 p.m. CT: Free agent negotiations can begin. My guess is agreements will be announced minutes later but, again, that could be delayed. Around this time, the Spurs could announce the re-signing of any of their free agents (even though it wouldn't be official). If, gulp, Forbes or Belinelli are coming back, there's a chance we'd hear about it around this time.

Nov. 20 @ 11:01 p.m. CT: Restricted free agents can sign offersheets with other teams. If Jakob Poeltl is going to sign a big offersheet, this is when we'd hear about it, most likely. A team looking to steal Poeltl would give him a front-loaded contract at 11:01 to make it as difficult as possible for the Spurs to match it. Perhaps that could get delayed by a day or so but I'd be surprised if it's delayed more than that.

This is also the time the Spurs could agree to terms with Devin Vassell and Tre Jones (unless the Spurs are going to use part of the MLE on Jones, which they couldn't do this until a day later, AFAIK).

Nov. 21 @ 11:01 p.m. CT: Teams can start officially signing unrestricted free agents. Trades can officially take place. This is also when Derrick White will become eligible for an extension, although I expect that the talks won't heat up until near the Dec. 21 deadline.

[cjw]

Usually more than 30 hours of moratorium time. Everything is super condensed this year.

Thanks for the recap of above!

[timvp]

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[timvp]

There wasn't a rush of announcement at 5:01 so it's safe to say teams are listening to those tampering warnings :lol

[Joseph Kony]

Looks like Boston is going to get Myles Turner at the very least for Hayward. Looks like talks are hung up right now because BOS wants Dipo or Warren included and Indy is only offering McDermott. :lol

[Joseph Kony]

Campazzo to the Nuggets. Good pick up?

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[timvp]

Campazzo to the Nuggets. Good pick up?

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Third point guard behind Monte Morris?

[dubross]

https://twitter.com/bytimreynolds/status/1329925025726685185?s=21

Myers Leonard got 9 million from the heat. Wow

[Mugen]

Bye Jakob!

[Joseph Kony]

13 minutes in and no announcement on a max extension for Forbes :wow

[timvp]

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$9 million? Good news for Poeltl's accountant.

Then again, Leonard can shoot threes so that helps his value quite a bit.

[cjw]

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$9 million? Good news for Poeltl's accountant.

Then again, Leonard can shoot threes so that helps his value quite a bit.


I wouldn’t read anything into these Heat deals. They’re all one year contracts with team options in year 2. Not sure what option dates are, but let’s them have huge cap space next summer and see how things play out.

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[timvp]

I wouldn’t read anything into these Heat deals. They’re all one year contracts with team options in year 2. Not sure what option dates are, but let’s them have huge cap space next summer and see how things play out.

Great point, tbh.

[Mugen]

13 minutes in and no announcement on a max extension for Forbes :wow

Pop's probably trying to get clearance for a parade/event like the Heat did for Bron & Bosh.

[timvp]

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I guess that's good news for Forbes. A team that wanted Harris would probably also have Forbes on their list :lol

[NASpurs]

13 minutes in and no announcement on a max extension for Forbes :wow

No 12:01 signing this year :wow

[Robz4000]

Guess the Spurs needed time to allow Pop to fluff Forbes before he bends the organization over.

[lmbebo]

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1329926543410302976?s=20

Crazy if that sets the market for Jakob

[cjw]

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1329926543410302976?s=20

Crazy if that sets the market for Jakob

See above, it doesn’t. It’s a one year, $9-$10mm deal for all intents and purposes. Heat were going to lose him for nothing and not have space to replace him (given keeping Dragic), so it literally didn’t matter how much he made. In fact, may have had to pay him a premium to get him to give a team option.

[timvp]

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[timvp]

See above, it doesn’t. It’s a one year, $9-$10mm deal for all intents and purposes. Heat were going to lose him for nothing and not have space to replace him (given keeping Dragic), so it literally didn’t matter how much he made. In fact, may have had to pay him a premium to get him to give a team option.

Yeah, I'd be willing to give Poeltl whatever the max is the Spurs can pay him ... if it's a one-year deal.

[Degoat]

Eubanks with a 3 year deal to return lol

[r0drig0lac]

Drew 3 years

[EasyMoney]

2 million a year. I'll take it.

[JuneJive]

Poeltl gone?

[Mugen]

Bye Jak!

[lmbebo]

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1329929927181934596?s=21

[Mr. Body]

Post-pandemic?

[Mr. Body]

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I guess that's good news for Forbes. A team that wanted Harris would probably also have Forbes on their list :lol

You don't watch Nets games, do you?

[Mr. Body]

See above, it doesn’t. It’s a one year, $9-$10mm deal for all intents and purposes. Heat were going to lose him for nothing and not have space to replace him (given keeping Dragic), so it literally didn’t matter how much he made. In fact, may have had to pay him a premium to get him to give a team option.

It sets the market. That's how things work.

[timvp]

2 million a year. I'll take it.

Where do you see that?

[EasyMoney]

Where do you see that?


No where. Just assuming they're giving him 2m as a prediction lol

[timvp]

No where. Just assuming they're giving him 2m as a prediction lol

Yeah, it'll likely be somewhere around that amount. My guess would be three-year, ~$6 million with about half guaranteed. Maybe more if another team went after him.

[Shakril]

Yeah, it'll likely be somewhere around that amount. My guess would be three-year, ~$6 million with about half guaranteed. Maybe more if another team went after him.

Depends on what happens with Poeltl. I can see him get a bigger payday if Poeltl is really gone. But as of now, no news on that front.

[lmbebo]

Plumlee got 3/25. Probably close to Jakob's market value. Dunno

[Degoat]

3year/25 mill for mason plumlee got that’s gotta be in jakobs ball park

[Shakril]

Meyers Leonard got the MLE with around 9 Mil. I believe that will be the Benchmark on which Poeltl salary will probably land.

[objective]

Plumlee got 3/25. Probably close to Jakob's market value. Dunno

That's a lot for him. But one less team to pay Poeltl.

Watch out for Charlotte next, I guess

[timvp]

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Good news on the Poeltl front, I think

[BackHome]

Yeah, if Detroit had offered him that contract..lol........So it's looking like 8 mill a year the going rate I wonder with them signing Eubanks if they let him walk?

[BWS-1994]

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Good news on the Poeltl front, I think

So DET thinks they can’t keep Wood?

[Leetonidas]

DET signing Okafor too. Wtf? Okafor, Plummer, and Dedmon? How many Cs do they need :lol

[Chinook]

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Good news on the Poeltl front, I think

I mean I guess. But you can argue pretty easily that Poe is better than Plum, and that's not a contract I'd be happy if Jakob got.

[Chinook]

DET signing Okafor too. Wtf? Okafor, Plummer, and Dedmon? How many Cs do they need :lol

At least three, according to a source of mine.

[pad300]

Ok, shouldn't we have heard about Lyles by now? Wasn't the deadline to cut him 5 pm?

[timvp]

I mean I guess. But you can argue pretty easily that Poe is better than Plum, and that's not a contract I'd be happy if Jakob got.

Yeah, it's close whether that's good news. On one hand, it's good that Plumlee didn't get $30+ million and it's good that there's one less team might be in the running. But, yeah, not great in that it sets the market for Poeltl right around the price where I'd want the Spurs to allow him to walk. Poeltl being restricted will hurt his value a little bit -- but we'll see if that's enough.

[timvp]

Ok, shouldn't we have heard about Lyles by now? Wasn't the deadline to cut him 5 pm?

I didn't see a time but, yeah, if they were waiving him, they probably would have waived him at the same time as Metu, right?

[BackHome]

Can they be working on another contract with him?

[Joseph Kony]

Howard stays in LA.

Fox signs a max deal with SAC.



and lol the corpse of Haslem re-signing with Miami again

[Chinook]

Fox's deal should caution people against trying to tank and build through the draft (though that's not what SAC did anyway). If you get anyone even half good, you're forced to max them out without even knowing if they're going to be good enough to take you anywhere. You can end up with two max deals and no cap space and still only get a mediocre team that have no chance at making the playoffs.

[ZeusWillJudge]

I really appreciate all the work you've been doing, TIMVP. It really makes being here a pleasure.

That's a great timeline for the league. But a timeline for the Spurs to make moves? While I'm sidelined with Olympus Virus, I'll check the weather report for Hell. If it looks like there is a cold day ahead, I'll let you know. :lol

[Joseph Kony]

Clarkson re-signs 4 years 52 million :lol disgusting

[ZeusWillJudge]

Fox's deal should caution people against trying to tank and build through the draft (though that's not what SAC did anyway). If you get anyone even half good, you're forced to max them out without even knowing if they're going to be good enough to take you anywhere. You can end up with two max deals and no cap space and still only get a mediocre team that have no chance at making the playoffs.


Some people get college degrees and wind up working at Radio Shack, too.

Some don't.

[Chinook]

Some people get college degrees and wind up working at Radio Shack, too.

Some don't.

And if the people who worked at Radio Shack were the majority, it would say something.

Remember, Fox is actually a success story. This isn't a bust we're talking about.

[timvp]

So, I've been told the clock on restricted free agents doesn't start ticking until Nov. 22 and that would mean Poeltl wouldn't get his offer until that day. Take that bit of info for what it's worth.

[Joseph Kony]

Favors goes back to Utah 3/30


(btw for anyone wondering since i'm too lazy to post every tweet, I'm only posting as I see Shams or Woj post them)

[timvp]

Favors goes back to Utah 3/30

I would classify this as bad news on the Poeltl front :lol

[Joseph Kony]

Shams retracting on Howard, apparently considering all his options

[Dejounte]

Is there a free agent tracker for which ones are still available??

[objective]

Maybe New Orleans gets on the Poeltl train now that Favors left?

[Shakril]

Maybe New Orleans gets on the Poeltl train now that Favors left?

Could make sense. Poeltl never said he wants to start, just to play more. Behind Zion he definitly would get more minutes, and as they need Defense and already have enough offense. Could make sense, but i dont see it.

[timvp]

So, I've been told the clock on restricted free agents doesn't start ticking until Nov. 22 and that would mean Poeltl wouldn't get his offer until that day. Take that bit of info for what it's worth.
Chinook, what's your opinion regarding the timing of when another team would present Poeltl with an offersheet? I'm debating whether to edit the OP but I'm not sure if it's right or a team would wait until the 22nd.

[NickiRasgo]

NOLA has already Jaxson Hayes at the center spot. I think if they're gonna sign a center, it would be a cheap one.

[timvp]

Maybe New Orleans gets on the Poeltl train now that Favors left?

Poeltl had some pretty good games against Zion last year. If I'm the Pelicans, I start Zion at center ... but you never know, tbh.

[R. DeMurre]

What is Detroit doing? Three centers added in a few hours. It's like the entire front office is playing beer pong together and using a Magic 8-Ball to decide on deals.

[timvp]

What is Detroit doing? Three centers added in a few hours. It's like the entire front office is playing beer pong together and using a Magic 8-Ball to decide on deals.
TD 21 is actually in the Pistons' front office, confirmed.

[Chinook]

Chinook (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=37557), what's your opinion regarding the timing of when another team would present Poeltl with an offersheet? I'm debating whether to edit the OP but I'm not sure if it's right or a team would wait until the 22nd.

I think we'd hear about interest earlier so the team could work out a S&T if need be. I agree that they wouldn't be likely to offer the contract until the 22nd or after. It locks up their flexibility earlier without really hurting the Spurs since SA has ROFR and don't need Jakob's money to be "freed up" in order to make any moves. They'd just have more time to find a replacement. If anything, SA could go the full five or however many days with it to screw with the other team. Just doesn't seem to have the upside.

[timvp]

I think we'd hear about interest earlier so the team could work out a S&T if need be. I agree that they wouldn't be likely to offer the contract until the 22nd or after. It locks up their flexibility earlier without really hurting the Spurs since SA has ROFR and don't need Jakob's money to be "freed up" in order to make any moves. They'd just have more time to find a replacement. If anything, SA could go the full five or however many days with it to screw with the other team. Just doesn't seem to have the upside.

Thanks. Yeah, tough to exactly tell what the timing might be. If a team will try to poison-pill the Spurs, they'd want to keep it quiet. But if they are open to a sign-and-trade, they'd want it to be known ASAP.

[Mugen]

I could absolutely see the Knicks trying to poison pill the Spurs with Jak tbh :lol

[Robz4000]

I could absolutely see the Knicks trying to poison pill the Spurs with Jak tbh :lol

Knicks gonna run out an all-PF/C lineup this season.

[cjw]

It sets the market. That's how things work.

I’d agree with you if this were a normal year. Most teams have no cap space, and they’re going to have to split up the MLE.

Guess we will know about offer sheets in about 165 minutes.

[Chinook]

Thanks. Yeah, tough to exactly tell what the timing might be. If a team will try to poison-pill the Spurs, they'd want to keep it quiet. But if they are open to a sign-and-trade, they'd want it to be known ASAP.

Right now, there's little reason to believe SA wouldn't match any deal another team would offer. Aldridge is on his last legs, and it's suspected that the team's already shopped him. I actually believe they like him more than most of us do, since Poe said he regrets turning down that extension last year. If throwing something at SA gets them to back off, that's probably the best way to avoid paying like $15 Million a year on Jakob. I think the Spurs would at least go to $10 Million a year as is.

[Chinook]

To be clear, actual poison-pilling doesn't apply in this case. If he re-ups with the Spurs, he'd be a BYC player I believe, but the only guy who can be poison-pilled this year is White, and that's not something to anticipate hurting SA.

[Dhbsr555]

Ok, shouldn't we have heard about Lyles by now? Wasn't the deadline to cut him 5 pm?
Deadline is at 11pm tonight

[Chinook]

Knicks gonna run out an all-PF/C lineup this season.

Their games against Detroit are going to be awesome for old-school fans, and TD21

[Robz4000]

Their games against Detroit are going to be awesome for old-school fans, and TD21

I'd watch just to see Dedmon playing PG. It's what he's always wanted to do iirc.

[timvp]

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1329960035837939712

[timvp]

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1329960730511233027

It'll be interesting to see how much. Earlier report was he was looking at a $3 million offer from the Lakers.

[Chinook]

Takes out one of the big Hayward suitors. There are still paths forward for the Spurs to compete. We'll see if they feel like going for any of them.

[DPG21920]

:lol Lakers and Dwight. Always a damn circus

[Chinook]

Philly had to agree to not trade for Harden to close the deal.

[timvp]

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These are the type of deals that really make me wonder whether you can justify giving Poeltl 15 times that amount or whatever it'd be.

[R. DeMurre]

I like Gallinari with the right team, but the team that was 30th in defensive efficiency, 30th in opponent FG%, and 30th in Opponent pts in the paint just isn't that team.

[Eaglenole2002]

4-for-$60M for Malik Beasley is a big ol yikes.

[BackHome]

That’s a terrible signing by the Hawks

[Shakril]

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These are the type of deals that really make me wonder whether you can justify giving Poeltl 15 times that amount or whatever it'd be.

Howard is a special Case. He made his money in the past. Also his locker Room presence was always an issuer. Lakers just managed to keep him in check. Also its not unusual for Veterans to take those kind of deals.

[timvp]

4-for-$60M for Malik Beasley is a big ol yikes.

Damn, thought dude was in jail. Guess not.

[R. DeMurre]

:lol An hour ago, Dwight posted "“I’m staying right where I belong! Laker nation I love y’all. Purple and gold never gets old.”

He deleted it a few minutes later.

[Robz4000]

Damn, thought dude was in jail. Guess not.

Hopefully they have an out if he gets convicted.

[Chinook]

Damn, thought dude was in jail. Guess not.

He's going to be for robbing them.

#LowHangingFruit

[DPG21920]

Minny poverty franchise.

[Chinook]

Minny poverty franchise.

Hopefully the Spurs will get to that point soon.

[Degoat]

So do the spurs have the full 9.2 million MLE to spend?

[DPG21920]

Beasley the exact type of man you want in a fragile locker room with your impressionable #1 pick :lmao

[Chinook]

So do the spurs have the full 9.2 million MLE to spend?

They should, but I'm pretty confident that some will be going to Tre Jones

[Eaglenole2002]

Frank Isola: Christian Wood is close to finalizing a three-year, $27 million contract with the Houston Rockets, according to a source.

[DPG21920]

Detroit let’s wood go to pay Plumlee the same amount?? Pop running that franchise?

[Robz4000]

Frank Isola: Christian Wood is close to finalizing a three-year, $27 million contract with the Houston Rockets, according to a source.

That's nuts.

[R. DeMurre]

Frank Isola: Christian Wood is close to finalizing a three-year, $27 million contract with the Houston Rockets, according to a source.

That's pretty reasonable. I thought for sure someone like the Knicks would give him 15mil/year.

[DPG21920]

Hopefully the Spurs will get to that point soon.

Mills is just Beasley without a gun tbh

[EasyMoney]

Great deal for Houston. He likely just didn't want to go back to Detroit

[Chinook]

Frank Isola: Christian Wood is close to finalizing a three-year, $27 million contract with the Houston Rockets, according to a source.

They traded the 16th pick for THAT?

[**BUSTA**]

Spurs should have tried for a sign and trade for Wood using Murray in trade. Spurs would have been good to go.

[Eaglenole2002]

Shams says Wood is still negotiating with other teams FWIW.

[RC_Drunkford]

Spurs should have tried for a sign and trade for Wood using Murray in trade. Spurs would have been good to go.

Spurs should've just offered the MLE. Would be around the same amount

[Chinook]

I'm sure a lot of teams are offering Wood a three-year MLE deal. Might even be able to toss in a PO instead of that last year and a kicker.

[**BUSTA**]

Spurs should've just offered the MLE. Would be around the same amount

Wood wouldn't have gone to the spurs for the MLE. Spurs have to pay him more and give somethig to Detroit.

[**BUSTA**]

Shams says Wood is still negotiating with other teams FWIW.

GO SPURS GO

[timvp]

We're two and half hours away from restricted free agents being able to sign offersheets. It'll be interesting to see if that happens or if teams will wait a couple days.

[gambit1990]

i'm surprised the dwight howard market wasn't larger. i guess there's still lingering issues with his character / attïtude.

i mean, every team could've used him tbh. the clippers didn't even make an offer? or the nuggets? the rockets could've used him too :lol mavs could use size, so could the celtics, the raptors...

[gambit1990]

anyways, glad the spurs didn't overpay their guy :tu off to a good start.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZh9PdLtbWo

[gambit1990]

kd's brother said serge is going to the nets.

[Degoat]

Wtf lakers might be signing Montrzl harreled

[timvp]

Wtf lakers might be signing Montrzl harreled

Nephew :lol

[timvp]

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1329979369884962816

That might help the Poeltl hunt. Hmm...

[Leetonidas]

Lakers picked up Schroeder, Matthews, and Harrell so far. Pretty solid. Lebron is gonna win his 5th next year

[Shakril]

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1329979369884962816

That might help the Poeltl hunt. Hmm...

I always saw Montrez as a Forward than a center. But i doubt lakers were interested in poeltl anyway.

[Eaglenole2002]

Bertans gets 5-$80M from Wizards, per Woj.

[Degoat]

Not to over react but damn,I haven’t seen anything about the spurs expressing interest in anybody. We’re really gonna run it back lmao

[MoSpur02]

Dang the Latvian Laser got paid!!!! Good for him. Sad the Spurs got duped by Morris.

[TimDunkem]

Not to over react but damn,I haven’t seen anything about the spurs expressing interest in anybody. We’re really gonna run it back lmao
Or this is just San Antonio and no one wants to sign here especially since the team isn't shit anymore.

[PhantomDashCam]

Hilarious ... from the Pistons Twitter page.

https://twitter.com/DetroitPistons/status/1329155667207270401?s=20

Lakers won going big...we’ll go bigger.

[FkLA]

Bert was that type of talent and Pop valued more and gave a longer leash to someone like Brent:lmao

[EasyMoney]

Not to over react but damn,I haven’t seen anything about the spurs expressing interest in anybody. We’re really gonna run it back lmao



They've only reportedly show interest in jae crowder thus far. Still early though. Spurs normally don't make moves day 1. They'll let the market get set and then find players days into free agency

[Leetonidas]

5 years 80 mil for Bertans :wow damn

[TimDunkem]

Dang the Latvian Laser got paid!!!! Good for him. Sad the Spurs got duped by Morris.
They're the idiots who made moves after having only a verbal agreement.

The worst part is we ended up with Carroll who didn't play a single meaningful minute because POOPATFO thought he was Jae Crowder. :lmao

[Dejounte]

So who are the leftovers for the Spurs

[R. DeMurre]

Favors goes back to Utah 3/30


(btw for anyone wondering since i'm too lazy to post every tweet, I'm only posting as I see Shams or Woj post them)


Seems like Utah is making a conscious effort to be Old School & anti-smallball, drafting Azubuike & signing Favors.

[Degoat]

Or this is just San Antonio and no one wants to sign here especially since the team isn't shit anymore.

wait we aren’t shit anymore?? lol

[NASpurs]

Bert was that type of talent and Pop valued more and gave a longer leash to someone like Brent:lmao


Fucking amateur hour around here with this front office.

[MoSpur02]

So Jerami Grant signing with Detroit means what about Christian Wood?

[TimDunkem]

wait we aren’t shit anymore?? lol
Sup old man.

[DPG21920]

Klutch running the Lakers. How the league glosses over all this is amazing :lol.

Klutch of course present in harming SA too. Happy for Bertans. That’s sick!

[DPG21920]

20m a year for Grant and no one thinks Derozan is worth is 27 :lmao

[timvp]

Heard Bertans was going to get $90 million but $80 million not too shabby. Congrats.

Carroll is still one of the highest paid players on the Spurs so it looks like that deal worked out well for both sides :tu

[Eaglenole2002]

Woj: Free agent guard Joe Harris has agreed to a four-year, $75M deal to return to the Brooklyn Nets, his agent Mark Bartelstein @PrioritySports tells ESPN

[R. DeMurre]

So who are the leftovers for the Spurs

Harry Giles? Medium risk medium reward

[Chomag]

Spurs FO probably already went to bed tonight :lol

[timvp]

Woj: Free agent guard Joe Harris has agreed to a four-year, $75M deal to return to the Brooklyn Nets, his agent Mark Bartelstein @PrioritySports tells ESPN

Yeah, the Nets had to re-sign him. Pretty decent deal.

[TimDunkem]

Our marquee signing of the past couple of years is Drew Ewwbanks.

[EasyMoney]

They're the idiots who made moves after having only a verbal agreement.

The worst part is we ended up with Carroll who didn't play a single meaningful minute because POOPATFO thought he was Jae Crowder. :lmao


Didn't the trade have to be done in order for Morris to eventually sign? Don't blame the spurs. Its commonplace to trade players to clear space for incoming FA's during the moratorium period.

[DPG21920]

Yeah, the Nets had to re-sign him. Pretty decent deal.

Nearly 20m per for Joe Harris and Derozan still considered over paid lol

[MoSpur02]

Garrett Temple signing with Chicago

[Robz4000]

Klutch running the Lakers. How the league glosses over all this is amazing :lol.

Klutch of course present in harming SA too. Happy for Bertans. That’s sick!

League has only been about the Lakers tbh. Its WWE-level at this point.

[YoungbuckMurray]

20 mill per for grant man that’s a lot

[DPG21920]

The fact that these players are receiving 80M and Derozan didn’t think he could get paid is ALARMING. Giving up 7M to secure 50m +??

[TimDunkem]

Didn't the trade have to be done in order for Morris to eventually sign? Don't blame the spurs. Its commonplace to trade players to clear space for incoming FA's during the moratorium period.
It's all Zaza's fault. It's all Kawhi's fault. It's all Morris' fault.

Never PATFO.

[rankingtear]

Big wings are getting paid a lot.

[YoungbuckMurray]

Any big wings left for us to get with the MLE?

[Robz4000]

The fact that these players are receiving 80M and Derozan didn’t think he could get paid is ALARMING. Giving up 7M to secure 50m +??

Not that he was a great player to begin with, but coming to the Spurs has really destroyed his stock. Same with LMA tbh, albeit he really hurt his rep with the whole 'ma touches' thing.

[Degoat]

Sup old man.

I’m fcking with you boomer lmao

[TimDunkem]

I’m fcking with you boomer lmao
I'm in my 20s, brah.

BTW that was my joke old man.

[R. DeMurre]

Damn, that's a lot for Bertans... Bjelica is reported to be on the trading block with one year at $7mil left on his contract. He's got similar 3 pt range to Bertans, but is better in almost every other category per 36 min: much better 2pt%, more rebounds, more assists, more steals, better defender.

[timvp]

Any big wings left for us to get with the MLE?

With the money the Spurs will have under the luxury tax threshold, might be able to re-sign Hedo.

[Degoat]

I'm in my 20s, brah.

same bro, in college lol

[EasyMoney]

The fact that these players are receiving 80M and Derozan didn’t think he could get paid is ALARMING. Giving up 7M to secure 50m +??

I don't think he knew the market was gonna shell out this much money for role players lol. If he opted out Atlanta definitely would have paid him

[timvp]

Nearly 20m per for Joe Harris and Derozan still considered over paid lol

Bruh, no shooting and no defense isn't exactly what teams covet these days, tbh.

[MoSpur02]

Damn. Christian Wood is going to Houston.

[Eaglenole2002]

Nm

[timvp]

Three years, $41 million for Wood.

[DPG21920]

Bruh, no shooting and no defense isn't exactly what teams covet these days, tbh.

Great trade Spurs :lol who could have seen this coming?!

[TimDunkem]

Bruh, no shooting and no defense isn't exactly what teams covet these days, tbh.

Shit I could've told you that before they settled on him.

[MoSpur02]

Three years, $41 million for Wood.

That’s a great deal for Houston.

[MoSpur02]

Three years, $41 million for Wood.

That’s a great deal for Houston.

[daslicer]

Not that he was a great player to begin with, but coming to the Spurs has really destroyed his stock. Same with LMA tbh, albeit he really hurt his rep with the whole 'ma touches' thing.

Pop destroys the value of players. Kawhi was viewed as a system player until he left here. I’m sure both Derozan and LMA are now viewed as system players.

[timvp]

Great trade Spurs :lol who could have seen this coming?!

Should have traded Terry Cummings and Willie Anderson for Charles Barkley. That one still stings.

[mo7888]

FYI The reported deals for Grant and Plumlee are exactly enough to do a sign-and-trade for Blake Griffin.

John Hollinger

[Atl Spur]

It's all Zaza's fault. It's all Kawhi's fault. It's all Morris' fault.

Never PATFO.

Bro you need a hug! Do you really think any of these teams you fawn over have a better personnel decision making track record than ours? If so, give me a team........let’s go!!! Don’t die on that hill of ignorance

[timvp]

FYI The reported deals for Grant and Plumlee are exactly enough to do a sign-and-trade for Blake Griffin.

John Hollinger

Denver with Blake Griffin ............. weird fit but I guess it could if he's healthy.

[DPG21920]

Should have traded Terry Cummings and Willie Anderson for Charles Barkley. That one still stings.

Spurs are absolutely morons for taking that Derozan package.

[TimDunkem]

Bro you need a hug! Do you really think any of these teams you fawn over have a better personnel decision making track record than ours? If so, give me a team........let’s go!!! Don’t die on that hill of ignorance

Which team am I fawning over? I'll wait.

[cjw]

What on earth is Detroit doing?

Trading for and stretching Dedmon so they can overpay other guys that all play the same position as the guy they drafted?

[Leetonidas]

Spurs doing nothing as usual:lol

[timvp]

Spurs are absolutely morons for taking that Derozan package.

That David Greenwood package was also kinda weak, tbh.

[MoSpur02]

Derozan to Detroit for Griffin?

[DPG21920]

Denver with Blake Griffin ............. weird fit but I guess it could if he's healthy.

Makes Plum deal look better. If 1 year is only guaranteed then makes way more sense.

[DPG21920]

That David Greenwood package was also kinda weak, tbh.

I remember your write up on Derozan:lol

“People don’t forget!”

[timvp]

Derrick Jones Jr. getting the full-MLE is pretty insane, tbh.

[timvp]

I remember your write up on Derozan:lol

“People don’t forget!”

My initial reaction was accurate, tbh.

[Thomas82]

Should have traded Terry Cummings and Willie Anderson for Charles Barkley. That one still stings.

I was just telling some youngin about that earlier this week. Yeah, I'm still scratching my head on that one.

[MoSpur02]

Carmelo Anthony? Spurs? Lakers? Clippers?

[EasyMoney]

Carmelo Anthony? Spurs? Lakers? Clippers?


Clippers or back home to new York.

[timvp]

Missed this earlier than Bobby Marks:

https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/1329933828568309764


So, 90 minutes to decide on Trey Lyles. I think that's an easy call to keep him.



DPG21920, your thoughts on your boy Trey Lyles? :lol

[Gibbz]

Derrick Jones Jr. getting the full-MLE is pretty insane, tbh.

No shit. With these contracts going around we're gonna have to sign Sebastian Telfair with our MLE.

[DPG21920]

Derrick Jones Jr. getting the full-MLE is pretty insane, tbh.

2 years only tho

[r0drig0lac]

Carmelo Anthony? Spurs? Lakers? Clippers?
LAC or 76ers

[MoSpur02]

Wall has asked Washington to trade him.

[DPG21920]

Missed this earlier than Bobby Marks:

https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/1329933828568309764


So, 90 minutes to decide on Trey Lyles. I think that's an easy call to keep him.



DPG21920, your thoughts on your boy Trey Lyles? :lol

He’s staying but I’d cut his ass and sign Bargnani

[timvp]

He’s staying but I’d cut his ass and sign Bargnani

Well played.

[Degoat]

Missed this earlier than Bobby Marks:

https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/1329933828568309764


So, 90 minutes to decide on Trey Lyles. I think that's an easy call to keep him.



DPG21920 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=13014), your thoughts on your boy Trey Lyles? :lol

I’ll be really shocked if they don’t keep him

[MoSpur02]

Trey Lyles needs to stay. He’s a good fit.

[Dejounte]

Wall is garbage. Pity the team that takes him.

[timvp]

The Spurs cutting Lyles now would be dirty.

:lol @ the thought of them cutting him hours after the feeding frenzy where cats like Derrick Jones Jr. are cashing in MLE checks.

[Degoat]

Do you guys really think the spurs would be willing to be pay the luxury tax on this team when we probably won’t make the playoffs??

[EasyMoney]

Denver lost plumlee and Grant. They have no one around jokic now besides Millsap who may not even come back. Dedmon is being waived by Detroit and Jamychal green is available

[Dejounte]

Do you guys really think the spurs would be willing to be pay the luxury tax on this team when we probably won’t make the playoffs??

Someone explain this to me? If we sign anyone with the MLE, we will be paying tax?

[timvp]

Do you guys really think the spurs would be willing to be pay the luxury tax on this team when we probably won’t make the playoffs??

They won't -- and they shouldn't, honestly.

[Degoat]

Someone explain this to me? If we sign anyone with the MLE, we will be paying tax?

I’m not to sure either but if we used the MLE plus brought back Jakob we would I think

[DPG21920]

Wall has asked Washington to trade him.

I mean is there anything they could offer that anyone would want for Sa?? Derozan + LMA (so they can win with Beal) for 3 unprotected 1sts and Rui? Lol - like what would it take.

[TimDunkem]

Do you guys really think the spurs would be willing to be pay the luxury tax on this team when we probably won’t make the playoffs??
I just want to know what the direction of this team is. Are they purposely trying to perpetually fight for the 8th seed?

[DPG21920]

The Spurs cutting Lyles now would be dirty.

:lol @ the thought of them cutting him hours after the feeding frenzy where cats like Derrick Jones Jr. are cashing in MLE checks.

F*ck Klutch

[DPG21920]

They won't -- and they shouldn't, honestly.

All the more reason to keep LMA and DDR and fight for 40!

[timvp]

F*ck Klutch

Wasn't their fault, tbh.

[timvp]

Robin Lopez to the Wizards. DPG in shambles.

[Robz4000]

Wasn't their fault, tbh.

:lol I still don't believe that for a second

[Dejounte]

The clips got weaker, right? That's all I'm hoping for

[DPG21920]

Robin Lopez to the Wizards. DPG in shambles.

I’m infinitely more creative than Sa front office tbh..

[baseline bum]

Trey Lyles needs to stay. He’s a good fit.

Bend over. I'll give you a good fit.

[baseline bum]

Bruh, no shooting and no defense isn't exactly what teams covet these days, tbh.

sees no one has signed Forbes away and dies a little inside

[DPG21920]

Wasn't their fault, tbh.

Look, if you are the agency and it happens under your watch? You’re responsible to a degree. Happened more than once with Klutch clients (at least not the trade part though).

They’ve been tampering and colluding and it’s not surprising it’s their clients this happens with

[Eaglenole2002]

Nuggets offered Grant the same deal, but he chose Detroit because he wants a more prominent role offensively.

[Dejounte]

sees no one has signed Forbes away and dies a little inside

He's probably not going to have an NBA career anymore and go to China

[**BUSTA**]

Trey Lyles needs to stay. He’s a good fit.

keep Lyles . sign jones. if Pop wants Forbes , make him pay the tax. should have gone after Wood.

[DPG21920]

Maybe John Wall will request a trade to SA since he heard about the Coffee Gang

[Chinook]

I mean is there anything they could offer that anyone would want for Sa?? Derozan + LMA (so they can win with Beal) for 3 unprotected 1sts and Rui? Lol - like what would it take.

His deal is horrible, but he'll be traded as if he's basically neutral value. If the Spurs for some reason want Avdija, he might be in the deal, but then SA would probably offer a first.

I had a bit of interest in a Wall trade with DeRozan and Aldridge. Probably don't want him otherwise. Maybe Murray and DeRozan for Wall and incentive

Wall, Mills, Jones
Walker, White, Weatherspoon
Vassell, Johnson, Bonga
Lyles, Gay, Samanic
Aldridge, Poeltl, Eubanks

[baseline bum]

Holy fuck people are talking about the Spurs trading for John Wall? God I didn't know we had sunk that far. After seeing how fat he got in DC can't imagine him here in the land of breakfast tacos and chicken fried steak smothered in two pounds of gravy.

[Eaglenole2002]

Robin Lopez got 1 year for a little less than the full MLE.

[Dejounte]

Holy fuck people are talking about the Spurs trading for John Wall? God I didn't know we had sunk that far. After seeing how fat he got in DC can't imagine him here in the land of breakfast tacos and chicken fried steak smothered in two pounds of gravy.

People are desperate for ANY change.

[Chomag]

Another boring free agent opening night for the Spurs. This FO is so predictable it's kind of comical.

[Prime BEEF]

Should have traded Terry Cummings and Willie Anderson for Charles Barkley. That one still stings.
Yes

[mo7888]

So Wall or Westbrook(if we're really kicking those ideas around tonight)...who has the worse contract? Which do we get the most assets for?

[PhantomDashCam]

Let’s do it boys.
LA+Gay or Mills for Griffin+I.Stewart.

Spurs get an extra year with Blake so get the 16th pick (Stewart) as a sweetener, Detroit gets 2 valuable expirings/trade deadline darlings.
#offtheleash

[R. DeMurre]

Just the thought of John Wall is scary: bloated contract, empty stats, wrong side of 30, bad 3 pt shooter, multiple surgeries, weird attitude... no thanks.

[Eaglenole2002]

Woj: Marcus Morris gets 4-$64 from Clips. Eff that clown.

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1329997833857077255?s=19

The bastard got paid.

[baseline bum]

Just the thought of John Wall is scary: bloated contract, empty stats, wrong side of 30, bad 3 pt shooter, multiple surgeries, weird attitude... no thanks.

Also fat fuck

[Prime BEEF]

Holy fuck people are talking about the Spurs trading for John Wall? God I didn't know we had sunk that far. After seeing how fat he got in DC can't imagine him here in the land of breakfast tacos and chicken fried steak smothered in two pounds of gravy.
We are basically the San Antonio Knicks now. Thanks Pop!!

[DPG21920]

Good people rewarded! Morris 4/64! Congratulations!!

[timvp]

Uh oh.

"Active negotiations between Jak's camp and both the Hornets and Pelicans."

Be back in a bit...

[Dejounte]

Morris is getting paid to injure opposing stars in the playoffs

[Dejounte]

Morris is the new Zaza. Just watch

[Chinook]

Uh oh.

"Active negotiations between Jak's camp and both the Hornets and Pelicans."

Be back in a bit...

Gotta starting looking through their rosters to see if there's any S&T salvage. Hell, NOP has like a million firsts.

[Degoat]

Holy shit I can’t believe Morris got that much money lmao

[Chinook]

If Poe walks, I wouldn't mind Bobby Portis for part of the MLE. He's a decent player who still has some upside. Just be worried he'd punch out DMDR or Murray.

[tbdog]

Man, Bertans deal is insane.

[daslicer]

Holy fuck people are talking about the Spurs trading for John Wall? God I didn't know we had sunk that far. After seeing how fat he got in DC can't imagine him here in the land of breakfast tacos and chicken fried steak smothered in two pounds of gravy.

People are dumb and irrational and can’t accept the spurs are a long ways off from being a contender. They want to make moves because they see all these other teams making moves and think that’s the way to go. No point in making big moves and overpaying for role players when you don’t have a superstar anchor like Tim Duncan.

[mo7888]

If Poe walks, I wouldn't mind Bobby Portis for part of the MLE. He's a decent player who still has some upside. Just be worried he'd punch out DMDR or Murray.

Worried? Lol

[Dejounte]

If Poe walks, I wouldn't mind Bobby Portis for part of the MLE. He's a decent player who still has some upside. Just be worried he'd punch out DMDR or Murray.

Brian is looking for "phenomenal" locker room guys

[Chinook]

Brian is looking for "phenomenal" locker room guys

Give Bobby five minutes alone with Wright, and he'll straighten it all out.

https://www.nbcsports.com/sites/rsnunited/files/styles/article_hero_image/public/archive/assets_article/boston/2015/05/15/ap746357347111.jpg

[daslicer]

Morris is the new Zaza. Just watch

Well the Spurs are fine considering they have no one of value for him to take out.

[EasyMoney]

A lot of role players getting paid good money. Half of these contracts they will regret giving

[TimDunkem]

A lot of role players getting paid good money. Half of these contracts they will regret giving

You can trade anyone in this league...unless it's DDR out of SA apparently...:(

[EasyMoney]

https://twitter.com/TheNBACentral/status/1330000935612014593?s=19
Interesting.

[Prime BEEF]

Derozan to Detroit for Griffin?
I’d trade Murray and DeRozan for Griffin and Bey

[SpurPadre]

A bunch of teams getting legit NBA players and we signed an undrafted G League scrub to a 3 year deal that many of you seem happy about. I guess I'm in the minority.

[Shakril]

Uh oh.

"Active negotiations between Jak's camp and both the Hornets and Pelicans."

Be back in a bit...

Source?

[timvp]

Source?

Not sounding good, boys and girls.

[TimDunkem]

A bunch of teams getting legit NBA players and we signed an undrafted G League scrub to a 3 year deal that many of you seem happy about. I guess I'm in the minority.

Nothing wrong with locking up your third string scrub center for third string scrub money. Now, if that's one of the only moves they make...

[Dejounte]

Not sounding good, boys and girls.

So he's leaving for nothing. Oh well. Not a big loss, IMO.

[Robz4000]

Welp, Eubanks gonna be starting 20-30 games this season. Unless Pop decides to make Forbes our starting Center of course.