Walker is a bust

[RGMCSE]

This fool can’t even jog down the floor without tearing an acl. We won’t see this fool miss open 3s til next season.

[slick'81]

The fck happend to our future starting sg!?

[lmbebo]

:rolleyes

[RGMCSE]

The fck happend to our future starting sg!?

Dude was jogging down the court and hobbled off the court untouched. Didn’t seem like it was so serious after the trainers looked at it but pop shut him down. Dude was looking like straight trash out there.

[John B]

Spurs system is complicated tbh. It takes a whole season before a veteran like Gay could adjust. Lonnie is a rookie. Athleticism is there. Just need familiarity to plays

[TP2150]

He stepped on Durant's foot on the play before when he was on offense.

[Gordy58]

People really expect this kid to come in and score 20+ points

[RGMCSE]

Spurs system is complicated tbh. It takes a whole season before a veteran like Gay could adjust. Lonnie is a rookie. Athleticism is there. Just need familiarity to plays

Oh you don’t have to explain anything. It’s plain to see he’s all athlete but has a low bb iq. Simple basic instincts like driving in an open lane or passing the ball when your locked up do not come to him. Those aren’t system issues.

[RGMCSE]

People really expect this kid to come in and score 20+ points

Where was that expectation stated here? He missed terribly on 4-5 shots. It’s not just scoring. He doesn’t look a year away. He looks like he should be at Miami Another 2 years.

[Play Boban]

I called this from draft night. PATFO really effed up.

[Degoat]

He’s just got a ways to go guys, Murray sucked his first season too

[Ditty]

Shut up faggot

[wildcardX]

He's a rookie out there getting experience, with hardly any NBA playing time, against a team packed with stars. It's a learning experience. What more is expected?

[BD24]

I hope you break your neck from the impact tbh

[Realdeal1]

Damn this place is full of salty bitches ... Lonnie will be fine .. he's a rookie getting his first serious minutes against the defending all star champs .. geez

[Keepin' it real]

I called this from draft night. PATFO really effed up.


:cry

[Rosewood]

True we should just cut him right now tbh, no upside, no future. Nothing. He really doesn't even deserve to be a basketball player. Should go play golf or some shit.

Dude is worse than Hitler. I fucking hate his guts.

[RGMCSE]

He’s just got a ways to go guys, Murray sucked his first season too

Another bust who hasn’t done shit and stays injured. Some of you among us really shovel the shit this from office is feeding you. The only young player on this team that has shown any real sustainable talent is DWhite. Unfortunately he’s also a medical bust. Kawhi, white, Murray and now Lonnie.

[Barfunk]

It is way too early for this. You have to be reasonable. He needs to get serious reps, and we also need a legitimate sample size before you can call him a bust. He ain't gonna do shit with 2 minutes per game or whatever he plays at the moment.

[Joseph Kony]

you faggots are always so desperate to churn out some shitty hot take. stfu dipshit

[RGMCSE]

It is way too early for this. You have to be reasonable. He needs to get serious reps, and we also need a legitimate sample size before you can call him a bust. He ain't gonna do shit with 2 minutes per game or whatever he plays at the moment.

Even James fucking Anderson showed promise early. This guy looks like he belongs in a u20 league in khazikstan or something.

[Dverde]

He should get a DNP - Rookie

[Pavlov]

you faggots are always so desperate to churn out some shitty hot take. stfu dipshit:lol

[RGMCSE]

you faggots are always so desperate to churn out some shitty hot take. stfu dipshit

Hurt dogs will always holler and right now you are squealin, biatch.

[Barfunk]

Even James fucking Anderson showed promise early. This guy looks like he belongs in a u20 league in khazikstan or something.

Yes he was absolute garbage tonight.

[Joseph Kony]

Hurt dogs will always holler and right now you are squealin, biatch.

what kind of inbred retard saying is that? :lol

[mkurts]

Wow.... where are all the idiots saying he was good ? Man they need to bury themselves in the sewers and never come out.

[RGMCSE]

what kind of inbred retard saying is that? :lol

Your momma taught me that one. :lol

[Pavlov]

Hurt dogs will always holler and right now you are squealin, biatch.:lol you started the thread

[RGMCSE]

:lol you started the thread

It was just a PSA. I’m a man of the community and just communicated the news to the people.

[Duncan87]

Dude 19 REALLY sorry ass thread

[TheGreatYacht]

Couldn't have came at a worst time. Was hoping they would trade him before the world could see him exposed smh

[RGMCSE]

Dude 19 REALLY sorry ass thread

Wasnt Tony starting games over Avery at 19. Try again.

[sasaint]

I have no idea how Lonnie will turn out, but what gives with Pop giving him his first significant NBA minutes against GSW?

[skin27]

Yes he’s a bust..I don’t see him improving..after a year or two he’s not on the team anymore

[Pavlov]

It was just a PSA. I’m a man of the community and just communicated the news to the people.you hollerin'

[cool cat]

Wasnt Tony starting games over Avery at 19. Try again.

No Tony and Avery were never on the same team.

[tbdog]

Games like this is a reminder that rookies that young don't belong on playoff rotation rosters.

[Pavlov]

Wasnt Tony starting games over Avery at 19. Try again.

No Tony and Avery were never on the same team.:lmao

[emanueldavidginobili]

Oh no he played terrible along with every one else Against the best team in the word in Oracle without their 3 best players. The kid sucks...another shitty thread smh

[ismael-robert]

Isnt luka 19...he still couldn't score against their trash lineup or complete passes. Not saying hes a bust but yea expected more than 0 for 9 or whatever

[TheGreatYacht]

Isnt luka 19
Homers will keep saying it until the dude is 24. Trust me. They did it with Fathead :lol

[KDKSpurs24]

I was disappointed in his performance too.. but if this dude gets a bit more experience during this road trip and starts playing well towards the end of it I don’t want to hear SHIT from any of y’all who’s saying this.

Kobe started off playing like trash.. (no I’m not comparing him to Kobe). But now that he has played it’s all about how he reacts. He KNOWS he has to be better and I guarantee he’s ready for his next playing time. I’m just someone who’s being open minded about this situation. If I’m wrong I’ll admit that I’m wrong but we shall see.

[emanueldavidginobili]

I have no idea how Lonnie will turn out, but what gives with Pop giving him his first significant NBA minutes against GSW?
Throw him in the fire. He either plays good or he doesn’t.

[ceperez]

I was disappointed in his performance too.. but if this dude gets a bit more experience during this road trip and starts playing well towards the end of it I don’t want to hear SHIT from any of y’all who’s saying this.

Kobe started off playing like trash.. (no I’m not comparing him to Kobe). But now that he has played it’s all about how he reacts. He KNOWS he has to be better and I guarantee he’s ready for his next playing time. I’m just someone who’s being open minded about this situation. If I’m wrong I’ll admit that I’m wrong but we shall see.

At least he will realize in this game that his current skill level isn't worth much.

[RGMCSE]

No Tony and Avery were never on the same team.

Right it was Antonio. The point still stands.

[Pavlov]

Right it was Antonio. The point still stands.:lmao There's no coming back from det one.

Consider it a PSA.

[BackHome]

Like I said before he needs G League still fucking way to early to say he is a bust.

[SpurPadre]

Couldn't have came at a worst time. Was hoping they would trade him before the world could see him exposed smh

Pop would donate a kidney to Sean Elliott before he makes a trade by tomorrow, tbh.

[RGMCSE]

:lmao There's no coming back from det one.

Consider it a PSA.

Regardless the point still stands. A previous 19 year old spur rookie showed flashes of brilliance. While the current 19 year old literally tweaks a knee jogging and has no real qualities to add.

[Ditty]

Luka is an overseas phenom playing on a horrible team that is giving him the keys to do whatever he wants because they are tanking. No comparison outside of they were fifteen picks apart in the same draft :lmao.

[Pavlov]

Regardless the point still stands. A previous 19 year old spur rookie showed flashes of brilliance. While the current 19 year old literally tweaks a knee jogging and has no real qualities to add.you squealin'

[99 Problems]

Just one of those nights, even Draymond had a career high 7 points. Doesn’t make us any worse than yesty lol.

[XDT76]

0/10 FGM/FGA��

[RGMCSE]

you squealin'

Uh huh like when someone mentions trump around you. You’ve been squealin since ‘16 fucko.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Obviously he’s raw and not ready but I think it means more pop played him tonight. He will be fine, y’all need to relax haha

[RGMCSE]

0/10 FGA/FGM��


Its not just his lack of offensive game but the abismal defense. It’s just not a good sign to have so many flaws. Before kawhi could prove he was an offensive force he relied on suffocating defense. Lonnie on the other hand is just aloof.

[alpha_HaZE]

too early to call him a bust, but thus far it does not look good.

[skin27]

Obviously he’s raw and not ready but I think it means more pop played him tonight. He will be fine, y’all need to relax haha


just accept the fact that he is a bust..and besides I did not expect him to be good

[Old School 44]

I have no idea how Lonnie will turn out, but what gives with Pop giving him his first significant NBA minutes against GSW?
Pop with the Jedi mind tricks. Just wanted the rook to get over himself.

[BillMc]

It's the military thinking. You gotta break 'em down before you build them up.

[UnWantedTheory]

Wasnt Tony starting games over Avery at 19. Try again.
Despite your error, it still has nothing to do with Lonnie dipshit. I am not saying he will pan out, but to claim he is a bust after one game is fucking stupid.

[RGMCSE]

Despite your error, it still has nothing to do with Lonnie dipshit. I am not saying he will pan out, but to claim he is a bust after one game is fucking stupid.


This wasnt his first game. I’m telling you he’s a bust and should’ve never been drafted. Your acting like the Spurs have never failed a first round pick before. I’m just letting you know so you don’t get your hopes up dumbass.

[sasaint]

Pop with the Jedi mind tricks. Just wanted the rook to get over himself.

A Jedi mind trick like this one could crush the kid. I would have preferred that Pop play him a little more before throwing him to the Golden State Wolves - or just not play him tonight and go with a shortened rotation.

[JeffDuncan]

OP is a faggot.

[Atl Spur]

Lonnie now realize he has a lot of work to do! It’s easier now to preach/teach of the divide that’s present between superstars vs reg nba participants. He’ll be ok though.

[LCM]

Pop : OK rook, you want to be the best?

LW4: Yes sir!

Pop : You sure?

LW4 : YES SIR!

Pop : Alright ... go get 'em!

(After the game)

Pop : Now do you, your agent, your moma, your daddy, your girlfriend, your twitter and your instagram followers understand why your ass needs to stay in the G LEAGUE this year!!!!!

LW4 : I'll pay my own ticket back to Cedar Park, sir ....

[UnWantedTheory]

This wasnt his first game. I’m telling you he’s a bust and should’ve never been drafted. Your acting like the Spurs have never failed a first round pick before. I’m just letting you know so you don’t get your hopes up dumbass.I clearly said I had no idea if he will pan out, but neither do you after seeing so little Nostradumbass.

[Pavlov]

Uh huh like when someone mentions trump around you. You’ve been squealin since ‘16 fucko.:lol tough guy
:lmao fucko

[HankChinaski]

People here only know how to overreact and just panic. Hope none of you are responsible with real lives.

Geez.

[wildcardX]

0/10 FGA/FGM😱

First real minutes in a NBA game. Against the champs, on the road, lacking chemistry and practice with the team. One of those games you don't dwell upon and move on. He missed his shots, some of those he was open for. Probably jitters. He's made those same shots before, the basket did not grow and the hoop didn't shrink. Just different atmosphere and different players around him.

[gospursgojas]

You mean a 19 year old had a bad game against an all star team in their home gym?

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Remember Jamal Murray's first NBA games? He couldn't hit a shot until his 6th(?) game and was like 0 for 30 before that.

Lonnie will be fine.

[Chinook]

Remember Jamal Murray's first NBA games? He couldn't hit a shot until his 6th(?) game and was like 0 for 30 before that.

Lonnie will be fine.

It's almost like Pop leaves guys in Austin their first year for a reason.

[Jsmoothexpress]

Wasnt Tony starting games over Avery at 19. Try again.
Tony Parker was playing professional at 15 years old if I recall correctly.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

It's almost like Pop leaves guys in Austin their first year for a reason.

Spurstalk : It's stupid for non lottery picks to be in Austin, they'll develop better in the real league!
Also Spurstalk, 1 game later : Why isn't he good? BUST!

[Jsmoothexpress]

Pop : OK rook, you want to be the best?

LW4: Yes sir!

Pop : You sure?

LW4 : YES SIR!

Pop : Alright ... go get 'em!

(After the game)

Pop : Now do you, your agent, your moma, your daddy, your girlfriend, your twitter and your instagram followers understand why your ass needs to stay in the G LEAGUE this year!!!!!

LW4 : I'll pay my own ticket back to Cedar Park, sir ....
This some hoe ass shit. You suit up next game and let us see what your mark ass got. Sound like you a baller forreal.

[Chinook]

Spurstalk : It's stupid for non lottery picks to be in Austin, they'll develop better in the real league!
Also Spurstalk, 1 game later : Why isn't he good? BUST!

It's amazing how many folks think PATFO are idiots. I totally get disagreeing with a move here or there or even not liking a philosophy. But damn, some people seem to honestly think both that RC sucks at putting together a roster and that that roster is being held back by Pop's coaching. It's bizarre

[horseshue]

too early to call him a bust, but thus far it does not look good.
I remember this season white also was called bust because after one good game he had a some horrible ones, but it turned out well. So i think it is too early to call him a bust.

[mkurts]

How Walker can’t score against GSWs bench scrubs is beyond me, but sure, one game is not enough to call him a bust .....

HE’S GOLD !

Yessiree !

[r0drig0lac]

Oh no he played terrible along with every one else Against the maybe best team ever in Oracle without their 3 best players. The kid sucks...another shitty thread smh

yep, only another retard thread in spurstalk

[monty4329]

He’s just got a ways to go guys, Murray sucked his first season too

Totally different situation. You could see Murray had talent and understtod what was asked of him. Walker has superb athletic tools, and shooting mechanics indicate some level of scoring talent. Unfortunately, everything else seems to be lacking. Not sure he can develop into an NBA player.

I am afraid the Metu and Walker picks are not panning out as hoped.

[Thomas82]

I called this from draft night. PATFO really effed up.

I called him our new Alfredrick Hughes once the pick was in.

[sananspursfan21]

All of you guys talking about Walker like this are unbelievable. You should be forced to resign as a Spurs fan when he gets his NBA legs and figures things out. The kid could go to the all star game a time or two, who knows. But it was one game. One game. I bet you Whataburger grillers overcooked a burger or two in your early days of employment. This thread is utterly disgusting.

[Strategic]

There’s another thread asking for a Manu bust. Now you’re saying Lonnie already deserves one.

[spurs50_]

he looked scared and it didn't help that Popovich called a timeout early in the game just to chew on his ass

[duncan2k5]

Someone mentioned Luka... U know what's sad now that I think about it... If the spurs drafted Luka, he would probably be in the G league, and many ppl on here would say he is probably a bust... Pop's rookies usually look bad because he doesn't give them consistent time, and when he does, they feel extra pressure to not make mistakes or else they may never ever see the court again for weeks or months

[dbestpro]

People really expect this kid to come in and score 20+ points

How about 2 points.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

All of you guys talking about Walker like this are unbelievable. You should be forced to resign as a Spurs fan when he gets his NBA legs and figures things out. The kid could go to the all star game a time or two, who knows. But it was one game. One game. I bet you Whataburger grillers overcooked a burger or two in your early days of employment. This thread is utterly disgusting.

https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/37820019/now-youve-gone-too-far.jpg

[weeks]

Too early to say if he's bust or not but I'm curious what people see in him to be optimistic.

[Spurch]

Some of you guys real hating on Lonnie the guy is trying to fit in and dealing with his injury all he needs is time and we are not looking for a championship this year he will perform soon enough our organization is the best in player development negative guys don't come praising him when he starts to really perform.

[dbestpro]

Some of you guys real hating on Lonnie the guy is trying to fit in and dealing with his injury all he needs is time and we are not looking for a championship this year he will perform soon enough our organization is the best in player development negative guys don't come praising him when he starts to really perform.

Could he at least make one shot out of 10?

[BD24]

This will make solid bump material in a few years. Similar to all of you faggots freaking out over poor summer leagues for Bertans and Murray a few years ago.

Lonnie will be fine as long as he can stay healthy. His talent is evident to anyone who has an ounce of b-ball iq

[mexicanjunior]

Walker looks like a G-league lifer and just tanked any trade value he might have had...such a waste...

[TheGreatYacht]

This will make solid bump material in a few years. Similar to all of you faggots freaking out over poor summer leagues for Bertans and Murray a few years ago.

Lonnie will be fine as long as he can stay healthy. His talent is evident to anyone who has an ounce of b-ball iq
Or it could be funny to bump just like those times the forum retards swore Ayres, Fathead, Poeltl, James Anderson, etc were any good.

[Play Boban]

0/10, 3 TO :lol

[sananspursfan21]

https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/37820019/now-youve-gone-too-far.jpg

:lmao:rollin

[rjv]

Damn this place is full of salty bitches ... Lonnie will be fine .. he's a rookie getting his first serious minutes against the defending all star champs .. geez

[Keepin' it real]

Walker better score 20 tonight.

I DEMAND EXCELLENCE!!!

[ceperez]

Walker better score 20 tonight.

I DEMAND EXCELLENCE!!!

I'll be happy with 9 points and 48% shooting!

[Gordy58]

How about 2 points. most of his shots were makeable for him, little in and out mid range shots, his handles will definitely get better, you can really tell his passing game is developing and although he was pretty horrible at defense, it was more mental mistakes than anything. I mean I remember Dejounte getting ripped like 2 or 3 straight plays in the playoffs by bev and he turned out okay. People just need to be patient.

[NameLess Scrub]

most of his shots were makeable for him, little in and out mid range shots, his handles will definitely get better, you can really tell his passing game is developing and although he was pretty horrible at defense, it was more mental mistakes than anything. I mean I remember Dejounte getting ripped like 2 or 3 straight plays in the playoffs by bev and he turned out okay. People just need to be patient.

I don't trust DJ's handles since then.

[GreekSpursfan]

People need to lower their expectations, he's not some generational talent or even an all star. Its rare to draft future all stars at the end of the draft. We hope he becomes great but chances are he won't. A rookie is never a bust in his first year unless you are the No1 or 2 overall pick and you suck throughout the season. If he's the same next season then yes he's a bust.

[hater]

The only thing notable about this scrub is his terrible haircut tbqh

[ceperez]

People need to lower their expectations, he's not some generational talent or even an all star. Its rare to draft future all stars at the end of the draft. We hope he becomes great but chances are he won't. A rookie is never a bust in his first year unless you are the No1 or 2 overall pick and you suck throughout the season. If he's the same next season then yes he's a bust.

I guess we all have to be realistic. Maybe he's just as good a CoJo.

[RC_Drunkford]

the kid just turned 20. Give him another 2-3 years and he will be good

[GreekSpursfan]

I guess we all have to be realistic. Maybe he's just as good a CoJo.

Right now he's worse than CoJo but he's a rookie with a big injury. If he ends up being CoJo then in most of our fans eyes he's gonna be a bust because we liked CoJo's hustle but thats about it.

[exstatic]

:lol CoJo was HORRIBLE as a rookie.

[ceperez]

:lol CoJo was HORRIBLE as a rookie.

Well, we got to manage our expectations of Walker.

He looked like a midget out there against GSW.

[RD2191]

He's a bum. We're lucky D White is turning out to be a solid player besides the injuries tbh

[Larry O]

Meh, LW4 will be just fine. He's still wet behind the ears, & hopefully, he has upside to tap into. Last night's game was like "baptism with fire!" The Dubs don't play around on defense, & you have to take good care of the ball; be decisive & play with confidence against them or else, they will eat him alive! They have some film to use as coaching material. It would be nice that he gets more burn time to gain the experience & confidence that he needs. But the ball will also fall onto his court to diligently work on his game & his strengthing in the off season to improve himself. This is where the rubber will meet the road with him. He has athleticsism, good passing skills, his shooting is okay, & his handles are okay as well. If he can sharpen & hone in on these skills as well as work on his defense & on court decision making, he'll be a good, if not a great player for this team & in the League. There are some players that are naturally blessed with basketball skills that would help them to immediately contribute to the team/game. But there are others, like LW4, who has some good skills but is still limited from being an immediate contributor on the court as a starter or 2nd unit player. The culture of this team is to let the rooks slowly develop their skills; work hard at it & prove that you belong on the court, which is predicated on knowlege of offensive & defensive play sets; executing them, low ratio of turnovers & using BBIQ. He'll be alright though, we as fans just have to be patient, I guess. GSG!!!

[BackHome]

Everybody thought White was a bum so I’ll give him time when we drafted Walker it was based on potential meaning two or 3 years. I think he will get better the only thing concerns me is his knees I would not be surprised if Spurs draft another SG this year.

[DJR210]

Wasnt Tony starting games over Avery at 19. Try again.

:lol Antonio looks nothing like Avery

[DJR210]

I thought Lonnie's main issues last night were between the ears

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Hard to say what he'll bring to the table. He hasn't shown much yet, but he's athletic, smart, seems to have decent tools, so we'll see. He's not NBA ready at this point. I'm willing to give him some slack so far in his short career.

[Truth4sale$]

Stupid post. Plain and simple.

[Drom John]

Tom Orshborn

Rookie guard Lonnie Walker IV will miss Thursday night's game at Portland with a sprained right ankle, according to the Spurs injury report.

[RGMCSE]

^ bust.

[hater]

Hes Brandon Roy without the basketball skills

[MannyIsGod]

There's a higher than normal chance that Walker will end up being injury prone and never turn out to be a good NBA player. Thats the entire reason the Spurs were able to draft him at the position they did. The guy dropped due to injury concerns. The Spurs knew that going in, but felt the upside was high enough to make the pick.

That being said there's noting to indicate he's a bust yet and even if he turns out to be a bust this thread is incredibly stupid.

But that's completely on par for Spurstalk these days.

[ceperez]

"Rookie guard Lonnie Walker IV will miss Thursday night's game at Portland with a sprained right ankle, according to the Spurs injury report."

What is it with the guards? Walker out again? How many minutes has he played in the NBA?

[TD 21]

Not jumping to conclusions, but I'm not quite as optimistic about him as I've been. I hate to say it, but he looks to have little to no feel for the game and reminds me of LaVine.

[ceperez]

Not jumping to conclusions, but I'm not quite as optimistic about him as I've been. I hate to say it, but he looks to have little to no feel for the game and reminds me of LaVine.

I have the same impression. Maybe not the kind of vertical that LaVine has, but certainly no idea how to read the defense or the offense.

You thought Murray was bad, Lonnie looks even worse!

[RGMCSE]

I have the same impression. Maybe not the kind of vertical that LaVine has, but certainly no idea how to read the defense or the offense.

You thought Murray was bad, Lonnie looks even worse!

He doesn't know how to play organized basketball. He looks like a lifetime fitness baller. Lol at dumb asses in here saying this kid has a high BBIQ. Hes a dumb young kid with all the athleticism in the world, but has no clue or feel for the NBA game.

[ceperez]

He doesn't know how to play organized basketball. He looks like a lifetime fitness baller. Lol at dumb asses in here saying this kid has a high BBIQ. Hes a dumb young kid with all the athleticism in the world, but has no clue or feel for the NBA game.

In total fairness, he does have a good shot. There are many athletes that can't even shoot.

[Leetonidas]

I think it's way too early to say this. Dude was on the floor against the GOAT team and yall expect him to ball out? Ya he did look shitty but I'm not going to judge him on a road game against the Dubs at full strength in his fucking rookie year with only garbage time under his belt. Give the kid some time man. We all know he's super raw and won't be a real contributor for awhile but calling him a bust imo it's way too early for that

[RGMCSE]

In total fairness, he does have a good shot. There are many athletes that can't even shoot.

I'm not worried about the shot or his motion. That's what chip and the off season is for. But he has no idea how to cut, rotate or roll in the offense and he's the worst defender I've ever seen in life. Usually the offense takes time and I get that. But the effort on defense is the worst. I cant believe the Spurs picked this scrub. This is some Orlando level incompetence.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

It's a bunch of impatient, never played any sport cornballs on this site

[RGMCSE]

I think it's way too early to say this. Dude was on the floor against the GOAT team and yall expect him to ball out? Ya he did look shitty but I'm not going to judge him on a road game against the Dubs at full strength in his fucking rookie year with only garbage time under his belt. Give the kid some time man. We all know he's super raw and won't be a real contributor for awhile but calling him a bust imo it's way too early for that


Im not for making excuses because it was the warriors like so many here. Every game Ive watched him in he is not fluid and doesnt have any positive basketball instincts. Watch his effort on defense and then observe him completely lost on offense. Ill concede that the offensive system is difficult and takes time. I agree on that. He just doesnt belong on the NBA team. He needs another two years in the dleague. Spurs should've draft and stash some euro prospect instead.

[ceperez]

I'm not worried about the shot or his motion. That's what chip and the off season is for. But he has no idea how to cut, rotate or roll in the offense and he's the worst defender I've ever seen in life. Usually the offense takes time and I get that. But the effort on defense is the worst. I cant believe the Spurs picked this scrub. This is some Orlando level incompetence.

Honestly, you can place some blame on the current Austin team. They've been sucking big time this year.

[Dex]

Not jumping to conclusions, but I'm not quite as optimistic about him as I've been. I hate to say it, but he looks to have little to no feel for the game and reminds me of LaVine.

He's only played one year of college, and has been benched most of his first pro year either due to injury, or because he is going back and forth from SA to Austin.

For all those people who want him to get "real NBA experience"...this is what happens when he stays with the big team who is still trying to win actual NBA games. He only sees the game from the sidelines and a handful of garbage minutes, and he's not good enough yet to keep out on the floor and still win games. The team is scrapping enough as it is without having a hobbled rookie running around for major minutes.

The injury history is obviously a concern, but let's not throw dirt on the guy after he performed badly in his first chance at playing extended NBA minutes against one of the most stacked teams in NBA history.

[ceperez]

Im not for making excuses because it was the warriors like so many here. Every game Ive watched him in he is not fluid and doesnt have any positive basketball instincts. Watch his effort on defense and then observe him completely lost on offense. Ill concede that the offensive system is difficult and takes time. I agree on that. He just doesnt belong on the NBA team. He needs another two years in the dleague. Spurs should've draft and stash some euro prospect instead.

This is a problem you will have with many draft picks. Even Murray looked clueless out there.

Now a 25 year old like White is totally different.

That's why I think there's an opportunity to pick up 22-23 year olds lottery picks that have washed up. There's still time to get them to play the game better.

I mean, the Spurs got JSimms at 26? He played two years in G-league? He was serviceable.

[RGMCSE]

This is a problem you will have with many draft picks. Even Murray looked clueless out there.

Now a 25 year old like White is totally different.

That's why I think there's an opportunity to pick up 22-23 year olds lottery picks that have washed up. There's still time to get them to play the game better.

I mean, the Spurs got JSimms at 26? He played two years in G-league? He was serviceable.


I'm actually all for this. The trend is for teams to draft these super talented kids early in the draft but they've been playing against their friends in the nike leagues then play one year NCAA ball. When they get to the NBA most cant deal. If the spurs would've focused on another Derrick White type of player maybe they could've found another NBA level talent. But drafting a 1 and done Miami baller because his potential is high but injury risk is also high seems like an un-spurs type move.

[ceperez]

I'm actually all for this. The trend is for teams to draft these super talented kids early in the draft but they've been playing against their friends in the nike leagues then play one year NCAA ball. When they get to the NBA most cant deal. If the spurs would've focused on another Derrick White type of player maybe they could've found another NBA level talent. But drafting a 1 and done Miami baller because his potential is high but injury risk is also high seems like an un-spurs type move.

I think there's an opportunity here that the league may be overlooking.

Just like in the past, the Spurs were hunting for foreign players. Now everyone is looking.

But guys like Stanley Johnson, who definitely have all the physical tools but can't shoot. They are still young enough to train.

I mean, look at Wade Baldwin IV, #17 draft pick, got traded by 4 teams this season and got waived. The guy is only 22 years old!

What about Caboclo, two years from being two years away. Well he played 4 years in the NBA. He's on a 10-day with Memphis. But he's 6'8" with a 7'7" wingspan and can shoot the 3. Surely the Spurs training can help him.

[GreekSpursfan]

If he looks the same next season then its a problem. We have to see some progression. I'm not as optimistic about him as i am with Murray though because Murray at least was affecting the game defensively and not just individual defense but team defense as well.
Walker has to take the defensive approach like Murray did and then get better on the other end and i'm sure Pop and his stuff will go that route like they did with Kawhi but as i said before i'm not optimistic about his development and i hope i'm wrong.

[DJR210]

It's a bunch of impatient, never played any sport cornballs on this site

I agree about impatient, and cornballs on the site.. but you don't need to have played a sport for years to know a thing or two about it..

[ceperez]

If he looks the same next season then its a problem. We have to see some progression. I'm not as optimistic about him as i am with Murray though because Murray at least was affecting the game defensively and not just individual defense but team defense as well.
Walker has to take the defensive approach like Murray did and then get better on the other end and i'm sure Pop and his stuff will go that route like they did with Kawhi but as i said before i'm not optimistic about his development and i hope i'm wrong.

How else could Murray play in his rookie season if he didn't play defense? He couldn't shoot!

Walker being more talented is his problem. He hasn't learned the skills because his talent has got him very far. Also, it's just one game against the best team in the NBA.

[RGMCSE]

I think there's an opportunity here that the league may be overlooking.

Just like in the past, the Spurs were hunting for foreign players. Now everyone is looking.

But guys like Stanley Johnson, who definitely have all the physical tools but can't shoot. They are still young enough to train.

I mean, look at Wade Baldwin IV, #17 draft pick, got traded by 4 teams this season and got waived. The guy is only 22 years old!

What about Caboclo, two years from being two years away. Well he played 4 years in the NBA. He's on a 10-day with Memphis. But he's 6'8" with a 7'7" wingspan and can shoot the 3. Surely the Spurs training can help him.

I like that approach. It could be another trend the Spurs initiate as they have so many times in the past.

[Play Boban]

I thought Lonnie's main issues last night were between the ears

He's a moon landing denier, so that's obvious...tbh

[Play Boban]

In total fairness, he does have a good shot. There are many athletes that can't even shoot.

Yeah, he's shooting 19% from the field this year. Great shot all right. :lol

[ceperez]

Yeah, he's shooting 19% from the field this year. Great shot all right. :lol

Small sample size.

His 3p% in G-league is 38%. Now if Austin Spurs only take open shots (just like SAS), then these numbers should be similar.

[BD24]

Or it could be funny to bump just like those times the forum retards swore Ayres, Fathead, Poeltl, James Anderson, etc were any good.
Someones upset because he was on the Davis sucks crew over summer league games.

Comparing Lonnie to Ayres and Fathead :lol

If not for the injuries Anderson might have been a decent bench player.

Jury is still out on Poetl, but he could definitely be a solid backup big as he continues to develop.

[DJR210]

He's a moon landing denier, so that's obvious...tbh

:lol well played.. I forgot he's "woke"

[XDT76]

I think all these young altheles would struggle in their first few years. Their physical abilities had been getting them points in the lower levels but when they reach NBA suddenly they lost all the physical edges and thus they need to relearn a lot of stuff to be effective.

[Xx_SpursNation_xX]

His hair is stupid. Maybe he should get serious about his life and shave that shit.

[dontouchmebwo]

him and murray are made of glass, the glass bros, even white looks injury prone

[GAustex]

Walker IV just has not shown a feel for the game unless he has the ball in his hands and then “chuck it up”

[Harry Callahan]

him and murray are made of glass, the glass bros, even white looks injury prone

Steph Curry was injury prone too, until he wasn't. Too soon to judge on Walker. He needs some on court time and work with the training/development staff. Next year will be a different story for what is a college sophomore.

[SupremeGuy]

As soon as he opened his mouth you could tell he was a goddamn idiot and was going to be a fucking bust. Wasted pick, but at least commie pop got a woke player to join him in complaining about dumbass shit.

[exstatic]

I'm not worried about the shot or his motion. That's what chip and the off season is for. But he has no idea how to cut, rotate or roll in the offense and he's the worst defender I've ever seen in life. Usually the offense takes time and I get that. But the effort on defense is the worst. I cant believe the Spurs picked this scrub. This is some Orlando level incompetence.

Orlando's incompetence is their development program. Fortunately, that isn't a problem here. In year one, Kawhi literally couldn't do anything except stand in the corner. It wasn't the Spurs holding him back. He had zero handles, worse than Danny Green's worst day. He had no idea how to move off the ball. He had no rocker step. He had nothing.

[DJR210]

His hair is stupid. Maybe he should get serious about his life and shave that shit.

Maybe he should stop his bizarre love triangle w/ his dog on insta and work on his game

[RGMCSE]

Orlando's incompetence is their development program. Fortunately, that isn't a problem here. In year one, Kawhi literally couldn't do anything except stand in the corner. It wasn't the Spurs holding him back. He had zero handles, worse than Danny Green's worst day. He had no idea how to move off the ball. He had no rocker step. He had nothing.

Thats very genourous of you to give credit to the Spurs for the hard work Kawhi put in on his own game. Everyone knows kawhi is a gym rat but he came in playing stiff defense. Walker is terrible all around. The Spurs have their work cut out for them on this project.

[exstatic]

Thats very genourous of you to give credit to the Spurs for the hard work Kawhi put in on his own game. Everyone knows kawhi is a gym rat but he came in playing stiff defense. Walker is terrible all around. The Spurs have their work cut out for them on this project.

No, I understand that Kawhi put in the work. He wasn't in the gym alone, though.

The truth is, with another team, they may not have pushed him to be more. The Spurs have their 'vitamin' program to improve their players. You pick a 'vitamin' or have one assigned. You work on it one on one with the development coach. When you start 'getting it', you are allowed to use it in practice. Only when you can consistently succeed in practice are you allowed to use it in a game. There are teams who don't have great development programs. If Kawhi had landed on one of those teams, he could easily have turned out to be MKG.

[Truth4sale$]

I cant believe people here believe a mid round pick is a bust , when we are barely at the halfway point of his first season. Expectations are placed too high on him. He is not coming in after playing a full season or two in college. He played half a year, is learning a complex system and culture. He will be find. He is not injury prone, he has had injuries plain and simple. It happens. Let him sit in the gleague, play summer league. In two years he will be averaging 20 pts a game. Winning most improved player. GUARANTEED!!!

[BackHome]

We drafted him on potential meaning it is going to take longer to develop then older player

[ceperez]

I cant believe people here believe a mid round pick is a bust , when we are barely at the halfway point of his first season. Expectations are placed too high on him. He is not coming in after playing a full season or two in college. He played half a year, is learning a complex system and culture. He will be find. He is not injury prone, he has had injuries plain and simple. It happens. Let him sit in the gleague, play summer league. In two years he will be averaging 20 pts a game. Winning most improved player. GUARANTEED!!!

I just looked at the 2016 draft where we got Murray (#29). Look at the picks that have been waived by teams.

Wade Baldwin - #16
Henry Ellenson - #17

This doesn't even count the other picks who are scoring under 3 points a game!

So, let's be real about the value of draft picks.