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Spurminator
03-01-2005, 11:45 AM
ESPN SportsNation (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/sportsnation/franchiseRanks#nba13)

Jimcs50
03-01-2005, 12:03 PM
This news in 2wks old Spurm....pay attention!

Jimcs50
03-01-2005, 12:06 PM
But, I did and I do have a question.

How come Detoit is #1 over SA?

Add up all the categories and the Spurs average is much lower than Detroit's, so HTF is Detroit rated above SA????

Spurminator
03-01-2005, 12:13 PM
This news in 2wks old Spurm....pay attention!

It is? Why is it front page on ESPN's NBA section?

FearDaFro
03-01-2005, 12:17 PM
But, I did and I do have a question.

How come Detoit is #1 over SA?

Add up all the categories and the Spurs average is much lower than Detroit's, so HTF is Detroit rated above SA????


I guess the "bang for your buck" stat is weighted greater.....which is understandable, that's by far the most important stat.....

You came in #1 last year anyway. You can settle for 2nd place for a year.

GoSpurs21
03-01-2005, 12:23 PM
actually if you go back and look at the equation bang is the lowest rated catagory

I used their equation and got something like 5.2 for the Spurs and 8.68 for the Pistions

lowest score is best, since 1 is the best rating

the Spurs should be rated the best

Spurminator
03-01-2005, 12:26 PM
Here is the formula:

(.178 X Bang for the Buck) + (.142 X Ownership) + (.142 X Fan Relations) + (.139 X Players) + (.135 X Affordability) + (.112 X Stadium Experience) + (.096 X Coaching) + (.056 X Championships) = Ultimate Standing

I think they used ratings from fans (for example, based on a 1-10 score) rather than applying "ranks" to the formula. So the Pistons probably just had a much higher SCORE in a couple of the categories.

FearDaFro
03-01-2005, 12:31 PM
Here is the formula:

(.178 X Bang for the Buck) + (.142 X Ownership) + (.142 X Fan Relations) + (.139 X Players) + (.135 X Affordability) + (.112 X Stadium Experience) + (.096 X Coaching) + (.056 X Championships) = Ultimate Standing

As I said, bang for the buck is the most important catagory.

Go read their formula page, it backs up what I say.

Ballcox
03-01-2005, 12:35 PM
When you go to Pistons games, does bang for the buck include being assaulted by various NBA players? Damn! We need to have more Spurs players coming into the stands and beating the crap out of fans, then we would be #1 in fan satisfaction!

respect the 'fro :fro

FearDaFro
03-01-2005, 12:46 PM
When you go to Pistons games, does bang for the buck include being assaulted by various NBA players? Damn! We need to have more Spurs players coming into the stands and beating the crap out of fans, then we would be #1 in fan satisfaction!

respect the 'fro :fro

I think it has more to do with having one of these.. :king

whottt
03-01-2005, 12:50 PM
Where else can you go and a be a part of an Ulitmate Fighting Championship PLUS get to watch an NBA basketball game, all for the price of one ticket?

Of course the Pistons are number 1.

whottt
03-01-2005, 12:52 PM
BTW, this ESPN poll is asking the fans to vote for who they think is the best NBA Franchise:

http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/polling?event_id=1209

The Spurs are running away with it.

GoSpurs21
03-01-2005, 01:10 PM
Here is the formula:

(.178 X Bang for the Buck) + (.142 X Ownership) + (.142 X Fan Relations) + (.139 X Players) + (.135 X Affordability) + (.112 X Stadium Experience) + (.096 X Coaching) + (.056 X Championships) = Ultimate Standing

I think they used ratings from fans (for example, based on a 1-10 score) rather than applying "ranks" to the formula. So the Pistons probably just had a much higher SCORE in a couple of the categories.If you are not going to use the ranking but some other number why bother showing the rankings? You can rig it any way you want.

Also where does it say that they use something other than the rankings?


As I said, bang for the buck is the most important catagory.

Go read their formula page, it backs up what I say.Where does it say that the highest score wins?
If you go by lowest score, then Championships most important.

The only thing I had to go on was ranking and formula, with those numbers Spurs are #1 with 5, Pistons are #2 with 8.68 and the 3rd place team is somewhere around 11.

FearDaFro
03-01-2005, 01:16 PM
Do you people know how to read? From the ESPN page:


For example, fans rated Affordability about 20 percent more important than Stadium Experience, so that's the weight we assigned it.

If you check the formula, Affordablitiy is a HIGHER number that staduim experience....so it would make sense to conclude that it is a HIGHER number thats better...

Just be a man and admit you made a mistake.

MosesGuthrie
03-01-2005, 01:22 PM
All that matters, and I think our Detroit fan would agree, is where your team stands at the end of June.

whottt
03-01-2005, 01:26 PM
I'm sorry...but the Pistons do give you the most bang for the buck...they could have charged extra for J O'Neal knocking that fat Pistons fan the fuck out. A lot extra...that was better than a lot of PPV boxing matches I've paid 60 bucks for.

That was the punch of the century.

MosesGuthrie
03-01-2005, 01:32 PM
They, and the Pacers are definetly the most interactive teams in the league. They give their fans the feeling that they are right there...which of course, they are! :)

FearDaFro
03-01-2005, 01:43 PM
All that matters, and I think our Detroit fan would agree, is where your team stands at the end of June.

Obviously.

The ring is all that matters.

whottt
03-01-2005, 01:53 PM
Tell that to Fatboy

Jimcs50
03-01-2005, 02:05 PM
Whottt, they also give chairs to fans to throw at other people and at opposing players.

Also I hear that the replenish all the food and drink that you dump on opponents at half the price at the concession stands..that is a sweet perk, IMO.

FearDaFro
03-01-2005, 02:09 PM
Whottt, they also give chairs to fans to throw at other people and at opposing players.

Also I hear that the replenish all the food and drink that you dump on opponents at half the price at the concession stands..that is a sweet perk, IMO.

well, we don't have the hodowns, square dances and roedeo clowns that the spurs do, we we had to make our fans happy somehow......

Spurminator
03-01-2005, 02:12 PM
You can rig it any way you want.

Why would they do that?

Jimcs50
03-01-2005, 02:14 PM
well, we don't have the hodowns, square dances and roedeo clowns that the spurs do, we we had to make our fans happy somehow......

Yeah, that rodeo stuff sucks, I agree.

whottt
03-01-2005, 02:16 PM
well, we don't have the hodowns, square dances and roedeo clowns that the spurs do, we we had to make our fans happy somehow......

So you sponsored a "get punched in the face by an NBA player" night :lol

Now that's what I call brilliant marketing.

Seriously though...I would have enjoyed being at that game.

Jimcs50
03-01-2005, 02:19 PM
So you sponsored a "get punched in the face by an NBA player" night :lol

Now that's what I call brilliant marketing.

Seriously though...I would have enjoyed being at that game.

Yes, that was popularized when Lambeer was playing...you could enter a lottery to be able to punch him in the face.

:)

FearDaFro
03-01-2005, 02:33 PM
Yes, that was popularized when Lambeer was playing...you could enter a lottery to be able to punch him in the face.

:)


And, at the end of the day....laimbeer fouled out, the fans goot to boo him, the pistons won, and laimbeer had another 15/12 night and was on his way to another all-star game....everyone was happy.....

Rummpd
03-01-2005, 03:11 PM
Spurs = Avis no problem with that - they try harder.

jalbre6
03-01-2005, 03:16 PM
What other teams does Davidson own? Is it just the WNBA team and the Lightning?

Jimcs50
03-01-2005, 03:23 PM
And, at the end of the day....laimbeer fouled out, the fans goot to boo him, the pistons won, and laimbeer had another 15/12 night and was on his way to another all-star game....everyone was happy.....


I agree, he was a very good player, but he was a smug prick.

:)

boutons
03-01-2005, 05:55 PM
"he was a smug prick."

... still is.

ShoogarBear
03-01-2005, 08:19 PM
Bunch of Johnny-Come-Latelys

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10991

SequSpur
03-01-2005, 08:45 PM
When you have the best player in the league, your franchise should be the favorite. Pretty simple.

FearDaFro
03-01-2005, 09:47 PM
When you have the best player in the league, your franchise should be the favorite. Pretty simple.

But I dont see Phoenix, Miami or Cleveland anywhere near the top.......

Useruser666
03-02-2005, 10:16 AM
Detroit: Five lucky fans will be assaulted at random to win a civil lawsuit against a player.