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    And please, if you have anything more definitive than McDermott's work - let me know what it is.

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    There are names for all the hijackers
    thats what ive been looking for

    do you have a link?

    its not on the fbi site

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    I think he may be alluding to M.E. reports that many of the alleged 911 hijackers were still found to be alive after the attacks...
    Yeah, none of those names were common names. Who'da thunk there's more than one guy named Mohammed living in the entire Middle East?

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    thats what ive been looking for

    do you have a link?

    its not on the fbi site
    It's only been there for six years, and took me all of three search terms and two mouse clicks in google.

    http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/pressrel01/092701hjpic.htm

    And that's just a couple of weeks after the attacks.

    Maybe you'll click the link in six months.

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    It should be noted that attempts to confirm the true iden ies of these individuals are still under way.
    thats not what ive been looking for
    its been six years










    and we've talked about this for so long and you just now searched three items and clicked twice?

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    Truthfully, I have no idea what you are talking about and your claim that no one has ever been identified.

    There were names and dates. That is what you asked for. To my knowledge, all the names of the hijackers are known as well as all but maybe four of their birth dates. The only things I have seen that disputes these identifications are:

    1) Arab apologist propaganda

    2) Poorly written UK stories based on above propaganda

    3) Loose Change and its ilk that were based on the above two

    None has presented anything resembling an alternative explanation or theory about what happened on 9/11.

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    1. the press release was weeks after sep 11th and 6 years later they still cant be indentified









    None has presented anything resembling an alternative explanation or theory about what happened on 9/11
    that doesnt mean

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    but theyve got atta and jahar, i might give you that

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    1. the press release was weeks after sep 11th and 6 years later they still cant be indentified
    What does that mean? All of them were identified.
    that doesnt mean
    It means everything. Given all the facts that are known, no one has even come up with any theory that fits the known facts. It leads me to believe that conspiracy nontheorist are either lazy or simply not interested in actually developing any theory at all.

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    one of the first lines on the 6 year old fbi page was
    It should be noted that attempts to confirm the true iden ies of these individuals are still under way.

    fits the known facts
    what known facts are you talking about??the building damage, fire, melting steel and collapse that was left out of the 9/11 commission report

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    one of the first lines on the 6 year old fbi page was
    And in your research, what evidence have you found that these are not the hijackers?


    what known facts are you talking about??the building damage, fire, melting steel and collapse that was left out of the 9/11 commission report
    Exactly, all that.

    Not one theory.

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    what evidence have you found that these are not the hijackers?
    because ive never read anything that gives the names or dates of births of the hijackers


    what known facts are you talking about??



    the building damage, fire, melting steel and collapse that was left out of the 9/11 commission report

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    your best link has been a 6 year old press release that says they are still trying to find the true inden ies of the hijackers

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    because ive never read anything that gives the names or dates of births of the hijackers
    You don't read much. That's ok. You've proven it takes you six months to click a link.


    the building damage, fire, melting steel and collapse that was left out of the 9/11 commission report
    Yes, all that.

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    Yes, all that.
    what are the known facts about
    that








    your best link has been a 6 year old press release that says they are still trying to find the true inden ies of the hijackers

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    what are the known facts about
    There is plenty. And I'm only talking about known facts. Where is the theory using the known facts? Is there even one?


    your best link has been a 6 year old press release that says they are still trying to find the true inden ies of the hijackers
    Things only exist to you if they are on the internets, don't they?

    Tell you what, file a FIOA request for all the information the FBI and CIA has on the hijakcers. I hope you have an extra room in your house.

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    1. what are the known facts about the building damage, fire, steel melting, and collapse?


    2. your best link has been a 6 year old press release that says they are still trying to find the true inden ies of the hijackers


    3. its not my fault the fbi and cia wont release the information you somehow know they have

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    Hey Chumpy, this guy spanks your guy McDermott

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    1. what are the known facts about the building damage, fire, steel melting, and collapse?


    2. your best link has been a 6 year old press release that says they are still trying to find the true inden ies of the hijackers


    3. its not my fault the fbi and cia wont release the information you somehow know they have
    Those who prefer to believe conspiracies and don't have an adequate grasp of the sciences of materials will never be convinced of the truth.

    The conspiracy theories surrounding 9/11 have been thoroughly put to rest in my opinion. The science showing it was as presumed, is on very solid ground. Structural damage and heat together made the buildings fail. All the damages are consistent with aircraft designs of the types stated.

    Who cares what the hijackers ‘true’ iden ies really are. They were identified, just not to a nitpickers satisfaction.

    Every time an aspect of the conspiracies surrounding this is debunked, another is subs uted.

    Get a clue. People are making money off of promoting these conspiracies. They will continue to make things up as long as they are making money.

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    1. what are the known facts about the building damage, fire, steel melting, and collapse?
    There were fires and buildings collapsed.


    2. your best link has been a 6 year old press release that says they are still trying to find the true inden ies of the hijackers
    And you didsn't even know that existed in all your "research."


    3. its not my fault the fbi and cia wont release the information you somehow know they have
    You mean it's not your fault you can't look anywhere but the internet.

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    Those who prefer to believe conspiracies and don't have an adequate grasp of the sciences of materials will never be convinced of the truth.

    The conspiracy theories surrounding 9/11 have been thoroughly put to rest in my opinion. The science showing it was as presumed, is on very solid ground. Structural damage and heat together made the buildings fail. All the damages are consistent with aircraft designs of the types stated.

    Who cares what the hijackers ‘true’ iden ies really are. They were identified, just not to a nitpickers satisfaction.

    Every time an aspect of the conspiracies surrounding this is debunked, another is subs uted.

    Get a clue. People are making money off of promoting these conspiracies. They will continue to make things up as long as they are making money.
    what conspiracy?

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    Huh? this guy uses McDermott as a source in his blog.

    You have an odd definition of spanking.

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    Indeed.

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    There were fires and buildings collapsed.
    left out of the 9/11 commission report


    And you didsn't even know that existed in all your "research."
    youre right i didnt know a 6 year old webpage that proved my point existed


    You mean it's not your fault you can't look anywhere but the internet.
    where should i look for the information that you say the fbi and cia have?

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    left out of the 9/11 commission report
    I am quite sure the collapse of the buildings is mentioned in the report.


    youre right i didnt know a 6 year old webpage that proved my point existed
    It didn't prove your point at all. Quite the opposite.




    where should i look for the information that you say the fbi and cia have?
    I already told you. If this is so important to you, you will do it.

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