^lol scoring le
midget has more hardware than Tristialdo ever will. Talk about wannabes. Midget also simply won more games in 2012 both with Argentina and Barca than Tristialdo did with RMAO and Portugal. Fact.
midget already played a Copa America final... people just have short memory... Did Roflaldo ever get that far in the Euro? Didn't think so.
lol made up benchmarks come back to bite you in the ass
But Messi = GOD !!!!!!!
You seem like that kid who's waiting to get beat up on the street but nobody pays attention to because his not worth it.Bynumite! Some good posts i have to say.
"Midget has more hardware"? How is that even relevant? So suddenly the ballon d'or became a career award and not something awarded every year
But now that you mention hardware, last season Ronaldo did win the most important trophy in spanish football while the midget underperformed when it mattered most.
Comparing the level of compe ion in european football with american footballmidget already played a Copa America final... people just have short memory... Did Roflaldo ever get that far in the Euro? Didn't think so.
lol made up benchmarks come back to bite you in the ass
When the midget finally faced a good team in Brazil during the Copa America final, just like in the WC against Germany, he got his pushed in big time by Brazil with 3 goals to 0
Continue on with your arguing, but at the end of the you have to realize Messi won it and not Ronaldo, the coaches and the captains were the ones that voted, those are the one's knowledgeable enough to make the decision, not you or me."Midget has more hardware"? How is that even relevant? So suddenly the ballon d'or became a career award and not something awarded every year
But now that you mention hardware, last season Ronaldo did win the most important trophy in spanish football while the midget underperformed when it mattered most.
Comparing the level of compe ion in european football with american football
When the midget finally faced a good team in Brazil during the Copa America final, just like in the WC against Germany, he got his pushed in big time by Brazil with 3 goals to 0
You keep saying the dude is a stat padder and his goals don't amount to wins. Well, they do."Midget has more hardware"? How is that even relevant? So suddenly the ballon d'or became a career award and not something awarded every year
But now that you mention hardware, last season Ronaldo did win the most important trophy in spanish football while the midget underperformed when it mattered most.
If we're going to hand out the ballon d'or on who won the most important trophy in 2012, then Iniesta should've won it. Either way, it's not Tristaldo
Most american players that matter play in Europe and also play in Copa America... heck, the 4x Ballon d'or winner plays in Copa AmericaComparing the level of compe ion in european football with american football
When the midget finally faced a good team in Brazil during the Copa America final, just like in the WC against Germany, he got his pushed in big time by Brazil with 3 goals to 0
Messi hasn't aged at all.
Just because you keep repeating that, doesn't make it true. You're the one that mentioned wins, any stacked team can easily trample the Osasunas and Espanyols of the world for easy W's
I talked about the correlation between goals and major trophies, as opposed to stat padding in meaningless games.
So that's why Argentina's road to the Copa America final was a war against the likes of Peru, USA etc. because american teams are so unbelievably stacked
Fixed.... lol midget haters have to resort to thousand years old gifs
Cristina doesn't even need a TOSB defender...he takes care of it himself.....
true
But if La Liga is , then it's for both midget and Tristiano. You can't claim only missi stat pads.
In the same league agains the same rivals, messi scores more, assists more and wins more.
American teams do fairly good. Don't forget Europe only has one more World Cup win than America.So that's why Argentina's road to the Copa America final was a war against the likes of Peru, USA etc. because american teams are so unbelievably stacked
And who's unbelievable stacked in Europe outside of Spain?
let me help you...
Barcelona
La Liga: 2004–05, 2005–06, 2008–09, 2009–10, 2010–11
Copa del Rey: 2008–09, 2011–12; Runner-up 2010–11
Supercopa de Espańa: 2005, 2006, 2009, 2010, 2011; Runner-up 2012
UEFA Champions League: 2005–06, 2008–09, 2010–11
UEFA Super Cup: 2009, 2011; Runner-up 2006
FIFA Club World Cup: 2009, 2011
Argentina
Olympic Gold Medal: 2008
FIFA U-20 World Cup: 2005
Runner-up:
Copa America: 2007
Third place:
U20 South American Youth Championship: 2005
Individual
FIFA Ballon d'Or (3): 2010, 2011, 2012. Created in 2010.
Ballon d'Or (1): 2009. Ceased to exist in 2009.
FIFA World Player of the Year (1): 2009. Ceased to exist in 2009.
World Soccer Young Player of the Year (3): 2006, 2007, 2008.
World Soccer Player of the Year (3): 2009, 2011, 2012.
Onze d'Or (3): 2009, 2011, 2012. No winner in 2010.
IFFHS World's Top Goal Scorer (2): 2011, 2012.[273]
IFFHS World's best Top Division Goal Scorer (1): 2012.[274]
Goal.com Player of the Year (2): 2009, 2011.
El País King of European Soccer (4): 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012.[275]
ESPY Best International Athlete (1): 2012.
European Golden Shoe (2): 2010, 2012.
UEFA Best Player in Europe Award (1): 2011. Created in 2011.
UEFA Club Footballer of the Year (1): 2009. Ceased to exist in 2010.
UEFA Team of the Year (4): 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011.
UEFA Champions League Top Goalscorer (4): 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012.
UEFA Champions League Forward of the Year (1): 2009. Ceased to exist in 2010.
UEFA Champions League Final Man of the Match (1): 2011.
FIFA U-20 World Cup Player of the Tournament (1): 2005.
FIFA U-20 World Cup Top Goalscorer (1): 2005.
FIFA Club World Cup Golden Ball (2): 2009, 2011.
FIFA FIFPro World XI (6): 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012.
FIFPro World Young Player of the Year (3): 2006, 2007, 2008.
ESM Team of the Year (6): 2005–06, 2007–08, 2008–09, 2009–10, 2010–11, 2011–12.
Pichichi Trophy (2): 2010, 2012.
Copa del Rey Top Goalscorer (1): 2010–2011.
La Liga Player of the Year (3): 2009, 2010, 2011.
La Liga Foreign Player of the Year (3): 2007, 2009, 2010. Ceased to exist in 2010.
La Liga Ibero-American Player of the Year (5): 2007, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012.
LFP Best Player (4): 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012.
LFP Best Forward (4): 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012.
Marca Leyenda (1): 2009.
Bravo Award (1): 2007.
Copa América Young Player of the Tournament (1): 2007.
European Golden Boy (1): 2005.
Olimpia de Oro (1): 2011.
Olimpia de Plata (7): 2005, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012.[276]
Records
World
Most Ballon d'Or awards: 4
Guinness World Records le for the most goals in a year: 91 goals.
Most international goals in a year (club and national team): 25 goals (shared with Vivian Woodward)
Most goals scored in FIFA Club World Cup: 4 goals (held jointly with Denilson and Mohamed Aboutrika)
Europe
Most goals scored in a season (club): 73 goals
Most goals scored in a year (club): 79 goals
Most goals scored in a European Cup season: 14 goals (held jointly with José Altafini)
Most European Cup top scorer awards: 4 (shared with Gerd Müller)
Highest scorer in a European Cup game: 5 goals (held jointly with ten other players)
Argentina
Most goals scored in a year (national team): 12 goals (shared with Batistuta)
Spain
Most goals scored in La Liga in a season: 50 goals
Most La Liga hat-tricks in a season: 8 hat-tricks
Most goals scored in the Supercopa de Espańa: 10 goals
Most consecutive La Liga matches scored in: 10 matches (shared with Ronaldo and Mariano Martín)
Barcelona
Top scorer in official compe ions: 289 goals
Top scorer in La Liga: 196 goals
Top scorer in UEFA Champions League: 56 goals
Top scorer in European compe ions: 57 goals
Top scorer in international compe ions: 61 goals
Most all compe ions hat-tricks overall: 21 goals
Most La Liga hat-tricks overall: 15 goals
Not really discussing the quality of the league. More the fact that Ronaldo still managed to put up great numbers, win the biggest trophy in spanish football and clinched said trophy with a good performance vs Barca and Messi... that's my point.
Like i said, correlation between major trophies and goals.
A few euro teams have great world class individual stars. Which doesn't mean they're gonna gel and make a deep compe ion run... that's another story.
Thanks wikipedia, appreciate the wall of text but i'm discussing last season. Like i said, the ballon d'or is not a career prize.
true story : being the Portugal captain, ronaldo should have voted for the ballon d'or, he can't vote for himself. So to have an extra vote he let bruno alves vote instead of him.
true story: Casillas voted for Ramos over Tristaldo
and the algerian captain voted for benzema. Maybe they're all homers, not just lefty
People are still arguing about this? Messi won, didn't deserve but won, just accept it.
Look guys, according to a guy named Brunodf Messi did not deserve the award
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