This guy is something else...And they tried Roger Clemens for lying about whether he used steroids and let this piece of lie about knowingly sending assault weapons to Mexican drug cartels?
Holder Claims Emails Using Words ‘Fast and Furious’ Don’t Refer to Operation Fast and Furious
By Matt Cover
June 7, 2012
Subscribe to Matt Cover's posts
Attorney General Eric Holder. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite, File)
(CNSNews.com) – Attorney General Eric Holder claimed during congressional testimony today that internal Justice Department emails that use the phrase “Fast and Furious” do not refer to the controversial gun-walking operation Fast and Furious.
Under questioning from Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah), who read excerpts of the emails at a House Judiciary Committee hearing on Justice Department oversight, Holder claimed that the phrase “Fast and Furious” did not refer to Fast and Furious but instead referred to another gun-walking operation known as “Wide Receiver.”
However, the emails refer to both programs -- "Fast and Furious" and the "Tucson case," from where Wide Receiver was launched -- and reveal Justice Department officials discussing how to handle media scrutiny when both operations become public.
Among three of the emails (see Jason Weinstein Email Fast, Furious.pdf), the second, dated “October 17, 2010 11:07 PM,” was sent by Deputy Assistant Attorney General Jason Weinstein to James Trusty and it states: “Do you think we should have Lanny participate in press when Fast and Furious and Laura’s Tucson case [Wide Receiver] are unsealed? It’s a tricky case, given the number of guns that have walked, but it is a significant set of prosecutions.”
In the third email, dated Oct. 18, 2010, James Trusty writes back to Weinstein: “I think so, but the timing will be tricky, too. Looks like we’ll be able to unseal the Tucson case sooner than the Fast and Furious (although this may be just the difference between Nov. and Dec).”
“It’s not clear how much we’re involved in the main F and F [Fast and Furious] case,” reads the email, “but we have Tucson [Wide Receiver] and now a new unrelated case with [redacted] targets. It’s not any big surprise that a bunch of US guns are being used in MX [Mexico], so I’m not sure how much grief we get for ‘guns walking.’ It may be more like ‘Finally, they’re going after people who sent guns down there.’” (See Jason Weinstein Email Fast, Furious.pdf)
Operation Wide Receiver was run out of Tucson, Ariz., between 2006 and 2007 by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF), a division of the Justice Department.
In his testimony, Holder said that the emails only referred to Operation Wide Receiver.
Holder told the committee: “That refers to Wide Receiver, not to Fast and Furious. The e-mail that you [Rep. Chaffetz] just read [between Trusty and Weinstein] – now this is important – that email referred to Wide Receiver, it did not refer to Fast and Furious. That has to be noted for the record.”
Chaffetz, after a long pause, said, "No, it doesn't. It says Fast and Furious. 'Do you think we should have Lanny participate in press when Fast and Furious and Laura’s Tucson case [Wide Receiver] are unsealed?' It's specific to Fast and Furious. That is not true, Mr. Attorney General. I'm happy to share it with you."
U.S. Border Agent Brian A. Terry, shot and killed on Dec. 14, 2010, near Rio Rico, Arizona, while trying to catch bandits who target illegal immigrants.
Operation Fast and Furious was carried out by the ATF. It began in the fall of 2009 and continued into early 2011, during which time the federal government purposefully allowed known or suspected gun smugglers to purchase guns at federally licensed firearms dealers in Arizona. The government did not seek to abort these gun purchases, intercept the smugglers after the purchases, or recover the guns they had purchased.
In some cases, as the government expected they would, the smugglers delivered the guns to Mexican drug trafficking organizations. Two rifles sold to a smuggler in the course of Operation Fast and Furious in January 2010 ended up at the scene of the murder of U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry in December 2010.
Sure seems like he is not telling the truth. I would like to know Holders reply to the last question presented to him.
Also if you were involved just say you were. Sounds like they had the right intentions. People make mistakes all the time. Lying as we all know cause more lies then you forget what the original problem was. God bless
this is an outrage! no way these "cartels" would have these weapons without that damn holder guy!
They certainly wouldn't have had THOSE weapons without the Justice Department intentionally letting them walk. And time after time Holder has said that this was basically ATF going renegade in Phoenix and nobody in Washington knew about it. Lie after lie after lie.
Nice straw man though from blue team.
lying has been "in vogue" for over a decade now.
what happened?
Ah..the "He did it first" defense.
Funny, I expected that from boutons.
bou has been around for over a decade?
Presumably. lol
This is looking semantic-ish tho.
look, all i'm saying is that we've made lying a time honored tradition.
can't find :americanflagemoticon:
i'll use this one.
LOL
Fast and Furious doesn't really mean Fast and Furious?
If it wasn't so disgusting it would be almost funny.
As we learned from the Bush Administration, saying someone is lying and proving someone is lying are two completely different ball games...
duh, its a movie about cars.
OK, but the drug cartels get most of their guns at gun shows and gun shops in the US...the American way, damn it...this is like looking at the campfire and ignoring the forest fire behind you....are you for tighter gun controls in the US or not?THOSE weapons without the Justice Department intentionally letting them walk
funny story about the movie. i played golf with 2 of the writers for that movie. i asked them if they had prepared their speech and what they would be wearing to the oscars.
they had a really good sense of humor about it.
He's black in a Dem DoJ, so of course he's lying his ass off.
Probably smoking dope in the O room too..
probably a straight up dope for guns deal.
probably.
....kinda like 9/11....
uh oh
No ?
Pretty cool.
That's bull . They aren't buying those ing hand grenades, automatic weapons etc. at gun shows.
They get most of their good hardware out of Central America.
And no, i'm not for tighter gun control. We already have plenty of laws on the books to keep this from happening. Justice Department just ing ignored them and handed those guns to the cartels to stir up and convince idiots like you that we need stricter gun control.
ing straw forest just grew in this thread.
And no, I can't prove that was their intention but it certainly tracks logically.
You can get hand grenades from any greedy weapons dealer..but the guns come mostly from the U.S....They get most of their good hardware out of Central America.
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Posting Permissions
Reply With Quote
