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    coffee's for closers FrostKing's Avatar
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    You are just upset that Biden got 81 million persons votes and one term Yam s lost, no magic involved.

    Ole Joe just whopped Yam s in the back shed with a hickory stick for all to see and tanned his hide so much, you are both still butthurt.

    That is all, period, end of story.
    Biden totaling that many more votes than Obama does raise eyebrows to the Covid Era voting process.

    But I covered that in my spamming main in ballots point.

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    lol minimizing black president derangement.

    The main difference is, a belligerent and sadistic Trump fully earned the hostility. Obama got dumped on just for being there with a swarthy complection and a funny name.

    Obama was center right, a status quo caretaker. Kept a Republican SECDEF and saved the financial powers that be in the Great Recession.
    I voted for Obama. I know. If he was so successful then wouldn't have the scaremongering been more intense?

    The Right is paying little attention to Biden today because it's universally agreed Biden has mentally checked out.

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    I voted for Obama. I know. If he was so successful then wouldn't have the scaremongering been more intense?

    The Right is paying little attention to Biden today because it's universally agreed Biden has mentally checked out.
    Look at Trump, you think he's better?

    If so, why?

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    I voted for Obama. I know. If he was so successful then wouldn't have the scaremongering been more intense?

    The Right is paying little attention to Biden today because it's universally agreed Biden has mentally checked out.
    Magats have mentally checked out.

    You are the perfect example

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    This guy is a ing joke

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    One of the main problems with the USA besides an unresolved Reconstruction is that there's no left wing. We have two corporate, donor facing right wing parties.

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    I listened to this guy's comments and I can't help but feel he's just a more polished grifter who changes his worldview based on market demand. He seems to have a lot of people convinced he's the real deal though.

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    I listened to this guy's comments and I can't help but feel he's just a more polished grifter who changes his worldview based on market demand. He seems to have a lot of people convinced he's the real deal though.
    Ya squealer.

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    One of the main problems with the USA besides an unresolved Reconstruction is that there's no left wing. We have two corporate, donor facing right wing parties.
    Horse , Winester. The Left is left. The Right is assuaged by RINOs, lurking in the shadows, edging toward the light, licking their chops now that Trump is making like a Wallenda on the wire. They'd give their left nut to just push him a scant measure so they could have the con again like before '16.

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    This guy is a ing joke
    That's you in the bathroom mirror, fart face.

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    I listened to this guy's comments and I can't help but feel he's just a more polished grifter who changes his worldview based on market demand. He seems to have a lot of people convinced he's the real deal though.
    Like Scott has suggested, Ramaswamy is yet another wily, charismatic grifter out for himself. He panders to political sadism to propel himself and has no other concept of public good.

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    Like Scott has suggested, Ramaswamy is yet another wily, charismatic grifter out for himself. He panders to political sadism to propel himself and has no other concept of public good.
    ...like Biden, who swore on the Bible that... "I"ll shut it down." Then proceeded to kill 3/4 of a million Americans and counting.

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    Like Scott has suggested, Ramaswamy is yet another wily, charismatic grifter out for himself. He panders to political sadism to propel himself and has no other concept of public good.
    Enough of what he says is true or at least is the commonly held belief of plenty people who aren't as informed as he is. I don't think he believes what he says. I think he believes Trump's base believes it, and that's all he's going for is the outside hope Trump backs him after not making the bell. For someone who's never held public office, he sure seems to think he knows how everything works simply because of the wealthy CEO angle. The people I see interview him are either asking canned questions he's prepared to answer or they are conspiracy nuts/grifters themselves targeting the "muh survival" crowd.

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    Enough of what he says is true or at least is the commonly held belief of plenty people who aren't as informed as he is. I don't think he believes what he says. I think he believes Trump's base believes it, and that's all he's going for is the outside hope Trump backs him after not making the bell. For someone who's never held public office, he sure seems to think he knows how everything works simply because of the wealthy CEO angle. The people I see interview him are either asking canned questions he's prepared to answer or they are conspiracy nuts/grifters themselves targeting the "muh survival" crowd.
    I can understand the desire to get ahead and even admire the moxie, but it matters what you're doing it for. On this count, Ramaswamy is a scoundrel, much like his purported idol, the "greatest president ever "

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    (Oh how i remember the shock among my liberal friends when I called Bill Clinton a scoundrel. He was another center right guy too. What is the point of triangulation beside sucking up to right wingers?)

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    I guess there might be other people who are relatively young, charismatic and mentally nimble to pick out besides the second place fascist. Damned if I could pick them out in the field on either side, so I guess I kind of see what you're saying.

    I hate being more or less forced to vote for Biden to prevent someone even worse from getting power, but that's where I am now.
    Maybe I led you to another conclusion - but I'm not saying you (or anyone) should vote for this guy... just that I want to see more young, intelligent, well-spoken people running. Would be helpful if they are not motivated by some power or money grab.

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    Maybe I led you to another conclusion - but I'm not saying you (or anyone) should vote for this guy... just that I want to see more young, intelligent, well-spoken people running. Would be helpful if they are not motivated by some power or money grab.
    I totally agree.

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    One of the main problems with the USA besides an unresolved Reconstruction is that there's no left wing. We have two corporate, donor facing right wing parties.
    I could buy into this but then what do you attribute for the social, academia, media, corporation and recently even Police/Military shifts Leftward since 2000? If I look at Planet Earth only England could claim the same.

    This isn't occurring magically. Elitist choose the direction, pillars of the nation follow suit and the people fall in line.

    IMO the USA is used by globalist to push progressive values such as climate change, LGTQ+X etc and migrants/refugees/homelessness. But so far only parts of Europe have gotten on board.

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    No, society changed and power chases it, not the other way around.

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    approximately 100% of conservative hysteria is chasing the cattle that already escaped from the barn

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    No, society changed and power chases it, not the other way around.
    Academia and Media/Entertainment changed before. Corporations I agree are always fickle & last.

    Power knows they can mold humans and always have. They order us to put a diaper on our face and take a syringe shot and we all did it to not be ostracized in society by the enormous machine (Power)

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    You give people too little credit. We're not all as compliant and stupid as you.

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    I could buy into this but then what do you attribute for the social, academia, media, corporation and recently even Police/Military shifts Leftward since 2000? If I look at Planet Earth only England could claim the same.

    This isn't occurring magically. Elitist choose the direction, pillars of the nation follow suit and the people fall in line.

    IMO the USA is used by globalist to push progressive values such as climate change, LGTQ+X etc and migrants/refugees/homelessness. But so far only parts of Europe have gotten on board.
    Social change has come by persuasion over a long period of time. The social left convinced people they were right. The right is only able to slow down change through temporary moral panics. Youth pastors continue to be a greater risk for child sexual abuse than drag queens. Academia has always leaned left because the most socialist a system is, the more power academics have. The media is center-left because it reflects mainstream professional-class values. The professional class has taken over power from the bourgeoisie. Corporations are moving left because they have to adapt in order to survive. Also, the investor class has told them, go ESG and net-zero or we’re pulling our money out. Business theories now also favor industrial policy over the free market. Police is just moving back from the “warrior cop” mindset to the law enforcement theories of the late-20th century, though those appear unsuited to the realities of the 2020’s. Most of the rest of the West is following suit. You have a narrow view as though Poland, a conservative outlier in Europe, were typical.

    Climate change belief is because only people who are so wrapped up in right-wing iden y that they are willing to deny their own lived experience still deny climate change. LGBTQ etc. again has gained ground by persuasion. Traditionalists have been unable to show that they are more capable of ethics, kindness and altruism than that community.

    Figuring out what to do with migrants is tied to climate change. A few million have come, but what happens when it’s a few hundred million? A billion? That is coming soon. The deep-down anxiety about this, again tied to climate change, even if people say they don’t believe it, also drives nativism.

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    Figuring out what to do with migrants is tied to climate change. A few million have come, but what happens when it’s a few hundred million? A billion? That is coming soon. The deep-down anxiety about this, again tied to climate change, even if people say they don’t believe it, also drives nativism.
    You & your Left, Stout, will have achieved their goal of perpetual vote harvesting.

    We won't be sorry, Stout, not you and I, we'll be gone, but are children, they will be sorry, just as sure as the turnin' of the earth.

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    I'm not sure what is worse: an idiot who caters to other idiots (ex: Louis Gommert), or a genius who exploits idiots (ex: Ted Cruz).
    Give me the idiot, if I have to choose. There's always the possibility they have good intentions and some shred of humanity.

    The lying genius is more of a sociopath and can't be trusted to make the humane or moral decisions even when he knows what those are.

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