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    You seemed to imply there was something wrong by saying NC got shafted. They didn't get shafted. They made a choice as the state which they are free to do and like all decisions there are repercussions. No one got shafted. Everyone got what they wanted in fact - NC got their law and business got to make their choice on where to put their money.
    I didn't say there was a problem with anything, nor did I intend to imply there was one. One can point out how a party may look to be getting the lesser end of the leash. I personally don't have a dog in the fight. And if any of that unsubstantiated rumor mill is true about Seattle getting a team again, I would hope NC would change some of that law.

    Also you aren't understanding my previous posts that well. The city of Charlotte has been on record to try and work with its LGBT group. Them not getting the Allstar game is a direct product of a law passed by their state. Charlotte itself has tried passing a city non-ordinance. They, Charlotte, are basically taking one for the team. Too bad their state might have pissed off the powers that be.



    Why do you want the NBA out of social issues? Also, seems foolish to want that since the NBA is by far the most progressive sports league in the world on speaking out on issues. Not just the organization but it's athletes as well.
    Personally I like to separate my professional, social and leisure life as much as possible. That sometimes isn't entirely possible with all the overlap in entertainment and pop culture. The NBA's decision to move the allstar game is a move out of political correctedness. The NBA should focus on improving ways to entertain its fans, not make controversial decisions based on touchy issues.

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    Adam Silver has a personal agenda on the issue. It's not the NBA's place to tell a State how to govern themselves. The people of the state voted. If they want to pull out of Charlotte that's the NBA's choice - however, why has the commissioner been given so much authority to unilaterally do so? Is he not accountable to the owners of the league's teams?

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    lmao "at all costs". the nba allstar game is a right
    It isn`t only about nba all star game. Even leave LGBT alone, the easiest example of what political correctness, and "love everybody, everybody is loved blah blah" it that obese people, with BMI around 40, are being told that this OK, that they are beautiful, when they clearly are not. People forget how to say things, what they are, because nowadays, everyone could be racist, facists.

    Meanwhile in Germany, 5 people are dead, because some muslim didn`t like them.

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    It isn`t only about nba all star game. Even leave LGBT alone, the easiest example of what political correctness, and "love everybody, everybody is loved blah blah" it that obese people, with BMI around 40, are being told that this OK, that they are beautiful, when they clearly are not. People forget how to say things, what they are, because nowadays, everyone could be racist, facists.

    Meanwhile in Germany, 5 people are dead, because some muslim didn`t like them.
    what the are you talking about?

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    lmao phenomanul could be sexually attracted to the same sex but chooses not to.

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    lmao phenomanul could be sexually attracted to the same sex but chooses not to.

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    D, runnin' just as fast as he can,,,next to Deeps.
    Why should I give a ? It's a private business. When it becomes illegal to make private business decisions in the US, I'll go to Nam with you and we can take jacks and timbers.

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    Adam Silver has a personal agenda on the issue. It's not the NBA's place to tell a State how to govern themselves. The people of the state voted. If they want to pull out of Charlotte that's the NBA's choice - however, why has the commissioner been given so much authority to unilaterally do so? Is he not accountable to the owners of the league's teams?
    Pretty sure he didn't make the decision unilaterally and the ASG is a league affair, not a franchise affair.

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    Being LGBTQIA+ is a choice... not genetic.

    LGBTQIA+ folks are the only peeps pulling the "discrimination" card based on something that they do... and not because of something that they are at birth.

    I'll post it again, from the "NBA LGBT shirts thread"
    Sorry, but that doesn't fly. It's like saying you like tuna but only because you want to, which means you could want to like and suddenly it's a delicacy.

    I get you're referring to the sex change or change of status, but it still applies. I don't agree with recognizing anyone as the opposite sex their DNA says they are, from a legal perspective, but from a social one I don't give a .

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    They should just have the All Star game at the Alamodome again. Do it, Mitch

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    lmao phenomanul could be sexually attracted to the same sex but chooses not to.
    Ummm no.

    Try again.

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    lmao phenomanul could be sexually attracted to the same sex but chooses not to.
    For all we know DisAsTerBot is sexually attracted to children and wants to open the floodgates on the acceptability of any sexual preference.

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    For all we know DisAsTerBot is sexually attracted to children and wants to open the floodgates on the acceptability of any sexual preference.


    right cause sexuality is the same as pedophilia.
    in jesus lovers tbh

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    For all we know DisAsTerBot is sexually attracted to children and wants to open the floodgates on the acceptability of any sexual preference.
    This is the second time I've addressed that study...it's an old thing.

    It's true, there is no gay gene. We call dna the building blocks of development but they are just that..the building blocks. Human design is still random in development.


    If you could choose to be gay, then why doesn't everyone do it? Even if it is a fraud what reason is there for caring?

    Anyway, gender and sex are old ideas that will be discredited within fifty years. The idea that you have to be male or female will be ridiculous.

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    For all we know DisAsTerBot is sexually attracted to children and wants to open the floodgates on the acceptability of any sexual preference.
    You lost this battle 40 years ago when society stopped punishing pre martial sex. All the gay and abortion is really just about the idea that we can't prevent people from having sex when we don't want them to. It's so dumb really because teen births and abortion are historically low so the anti people look more ridiculous because they won't admit the real issue is sex.

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    right cause sexuality is the same as pedophilia.
    in jesus lovers tbh



    The object of sexual desire is a choice. The fact that you cannot dissociate the "choice" from the "action" is part of the problem.

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    You lost this battle 40 years ago when society stopped punishing pre martial sex. All the gay and abortion is really just about the idea that we can't prevent people from having sex when we don't want them to. It's so dumb really because teen births and abortion are historically low so the anti people look more ridiculous because they won't admit the real issue is sex.
    My argument is not sex.

    Try again.

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    The object of sexual desire is a choice. The fact that you cannot dissociate the "choice" from the "action" is part of the problem.
    so by your logic: you, phenomanul, can choose to sexually desire a person of your same sex.

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    you equating the "action" to a "sin" is THE problem.

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    This is the second time I've addressed that study...it's an old thing.
    Don't take it personal but you clearly don't understand genetics.


    It's true, there is no gay gene. We call dna the building blocks of development but they are just that..the building blocks. Human design is still random in development.
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    Again, you clearly don't understand genetics.

    If you could choose to be gay, then why doesn't everyone do it? Even if it is a fraud what reason is there for caring?
    The prevalence of that choice is in fact increasing because society is moving towards accepting it as a legitimate choice rather than a deviant one...

    Anyway, gender and sex are old ideas that will be discredited within fifty years.
    Much to the destabilization of society...

    The idea that you have to be male or female will be ridiculous.
    And yet our genes define us that way.

    Lets just all wear gray uniforms, and everyone shave their heads... let everyone take hormone therapies such that everyone become more androgynous (some indeterminate place in the middle).

    I'd rather celebrate the differences between the sexes than accept some crappy "politically correct" position that those differences are somehow bad for society and need to be eliminated.
    Last edited by Phenomanul; 07-22-2016 at 04:51 PM.

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    Learn to read you ing idiot.
    First you said unsubstantiated rumors and then in you own words said "Probably going to lose the franchise to those idiots from Seattle". Which means you believe the "unsubstantiated" rumors. This is like me saying they are unsubstantiated rumors that Obama is actually Satan in disguise and then saying I think it's probably true Obama is Satan. Fact is you believed in that rumor which makes you pretty stupid since you don't know the actual current situation about the Hornets.

    The Hornets have a lease until 2025 and to get out it it will cost over 70 plus mil to get out of it right now. On top of that they are ton of requirements the Hornets would have to meet to get out of the lease. If you don't believe me here is my source http://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte...e-nba-all.html. Also I doubt MJ is going to sell the team since he's from NC granted it could happen if some guy throws a ridiculous offer at him but that's highly unlikely to happen. Thirdly Charlotte is second in the nation after NYC in banking which makes it highly unlikely Silver would even attempt to try to move the hornets due to his connections with the banking community. Silver taking the All-star game away was a move made to appease the liberal NBA fan base who were outraged by this law.

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    so by your logic: you, phenomanul, can choose to sexually desire a person of your same sex.
    Exactly. But I've chosen to find sexual gratification in the opposite gender not in my own.

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    you equating the "action" to a "sin" is THE problem.
    That philosophical distinction is also a choice. You don't have to believe it.

    In that framework, or even within your own my former statement still stands: there is a clear distinction between sexual desire (a choice) and action ( sexuality)... In the context of pedophilia, children and pre-teens are the object of sexual desire for some people... they may never act on it. They may not own any child pornography. But as a society we still rightfully condemn that desire, that choice. The actions predicated from that choice are illegal. But the choice itself is not.

    It's a slippery slope you folks are antsy to rush towards.

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    Why should I give a ? It's a private business. When it becomes illegal to make private business decisions in the US, I'll go to Nam with you and we can take jacks and timbers.
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