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    dangerous floater Winehole23's Avatar
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    back when Flores was in effect, we used to release minors to relatives, known friends of family, vouched for sponsors, etc.

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    Hannity: Biden facilities for immigrant minors identical to Trump administration's 'cages'
    Biden policies are 'green light for migrants,' Fox News host warns
    I hope it is.

    Let's let tons and tons of immigrants in. That makes me happy.

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    my understanding is that there is a network of people who want to help who aren't allowed to.
    Then they should be allowed to if they are qualified and pass background checks, but we still have to hold them somewhere in the interim.

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    The foster care system right now is rife with physical, sexual and emotional abuse because there are more children in need of care than qualified, decent providers.

    Exposing immigrant children to that risk instead of holding them in fewer locations which can be monitored and regulated for humane treatment is not a compelling alternative, imo.
    no one said its risk free. keeping kids locked up in prison to spare them possible abuse in the foster system seems extreme.

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    Then they should be allowed to if they are qualified and pass background checks, but we still have to hold them somewhere in the interim.
    Sure.

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    back, when Flores was in effect, we used to release minors to relatives, known friends of family, vouched for sponsors, etc.
    I'm good with that too.

    I guess my reaction is mainly to the performative "Detention Facilities Bad and Just Like Trump" outrage, which implies that those facilities cannot be an essential part of controlled and humane release.

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    back when Flores was in effect, we used to release minors to relatives, known friends of family, vouched for sponsors, etc.
    but do we know that there is a sponsor out there ready to go for each of these kids in these facilities right now?

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    do all of these children have qualified domestic sponsors ready to take them in right now?
    my understanding is that CBP/ICE has made them that are, very unwelcome.

    the answer is no, have no idea. I'm not an immigration activist.
    Last edited by Winehole23; 02-24-2021 at 12:27 PM.

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    I might also advise those sponsors that there are many, many domestic children in need of care and we don't have anywhere to hold them.

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    Trump is a racist, it was always accurate to call him that. His policies pandered to it, especially his immigration policies. They were an outgrowth of his racist outreach to aggrieved white voters. So was kids in cages.

    With Joe Biden the intention is different but the result is so far the same. It's more like not so benign technocratic neglect -- with a definite racist flavor to it. We wouldn't do this to European kids.
    One could say Biden is a racist too based on his record. He said integrating black kids in school would turn them into jungles

    Thanks for admitting both administrations are racist in this subject.

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    Despite my abolitionist feeling about it of course I rationally understand that unaccompanied minors who come across the border have to held temporarily, somewhere. I will continue to point othat the way to release kids from cages is to start *releasing* them.

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    Despite my abolitionist feeling about it of course I rationally understand that unaccompanied minors who come across the border have to held temporarily, somewhere. I will continue to point othat the way to release kids from cages is to start *releasing* them.

    so if there isn’t anyone to release them to, what do you do?

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    do all of these children have qualified domestic sponsors ready to take them in right now?
    Yes, they are fresh and ready to be trafficked.

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    Yes, they are fresh and ready to be trafficked.
    ok, derp

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    so if there isn’t anyone to release them to, what do you do?
    that's a toughie, right?

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    One could say Biden is a racist too based on his record. He said integrating black kids in school would turn them into jungles

    Thanks for admitting both administrations are racist in this subject.

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    she really triggers you after she clowned Texas RepubliQans like yourself.

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    that's a toughie, right?

    yeah, there’s not anything approaching a good answer for that problem. The easiest answer would have been to quit destabilizing central and South America for the last few decades, but that ship sailed long ago. it’s a terrible situation with no decent answer

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    When Trump does it: "hes a racists white supremacist nazi!"

    When Biden does it: "its wrong no matter who does it"
    It's wrong, period. Trump being a nazi has much less to do with separating families or jails and much more to do with standing up for neo-nationalists and white supremacists.

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    So criminals can use children to use a baseball bat beat your mom to death and should never be separated ?
    Criminals don't need children to do whatever they want to do. If anything, children slows them down. Ask your parents.

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    Keep trying. One of these days you'll have a funny.

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    When Trump does it: "hes a racists white supremacist nazi!"

    When Biden does it: "its wrong no matter who does it"
    What kind of response did you expect from the party of hypocrites?

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    Despite my abolitionist feeling about it of course I rationally understand that unaccompanied minors who come across the border have to held temporarily, somewhere. I will continue to point othat the way to release kids from cages is to start *releasing* them.
    You're a f'n idiot bro.

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    When Trump does it: "hes a racists white supremacist nazi!"

    When Biden does it: "its wrong no matter who does it"
    Those screeching nazi are hopeless. The concern is those Americans in the middle that were complicit in the anti-white rhetoric

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