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Yup I agree. If he's at 9 I wouldn't think twice.
How is this a response to what I said about he can’t shootYou talking about this guy?
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Yup I agree. If he's at 9 I wouldn't think twice.
Jeremy Sochan is the move Spurs. Don't overthink this. He's the 4 this team desperately needs.
He probably would be better utilized on a different team. If we drafted him, then I imagine we'd have to be trading Yak on draft night at the same time. But if we're trading Yak, then wouldn't be prioritize trying to move up higher in the draft and so then why would we be drafting Duren. Point is: lots of variables. There are scenarios where he could fit on the team but more scenarios where he doesn't.
Growing up in the 80s and 90s, I loved college basketball. However, once I graduate college in 2001, my love for the sport started to wane a bit. I still followed UT and TAMU-CC, though. However, in the last 15 years or so, it became unwatchable for me. I swear, every game was 3 minutes of action, mostly whistles and FTs, followed by 1 or 2 minutes of commercials. The games no longer had the flow they had in the 80s and 90s. There were really no teams like the Runnin Rebels or Loyola Marymount. A lot of the scores were in the low 60s to mid 50s. There was a lot more "ME" ball going on. Also, with the change in the NBA rules, the whole one and done thing really damaged the college product, at least in my eyes. The NBA should have just left it open for HS grads to enter the draft. College was flourishing under the old NBA rules. Some players did leave early, but others stayed 3-4 years and honed their skills, while also maturing and getting an education.
I am a Longhorns and Islanders fan. I found the Horns very hard to watch. Though they didn't have much success under Penders, they were fun as to watch....Mays, Rencher, and Wright. Under Barnes, for the first half of his coaching tenure, they were fun to watch, no so much in the latter years. They were an eyesore under Shaka. This past season, they had all these supposedly good players, but they had no chemistry. Beard was able to have chemistry in Lubbock. It was only his first year, so we will see.
Anyway, back to my point. Since I do not watch the games, I really on player scouting reports and videos about the good, bad, and ugly of a player's game. I also take into account some of the posters on here, who seem to have watched the games and have valuable input into certain players.
So, what if the Spurs were to draft Sochan, Jovic, and Kessler in the first round? That is 2 PFs and a C. Then, in the 2nd round SG Gabriele Procida.
Let's say we also keep Richardson and Walker
PG - Murray, Jones, Primo
SG - Vassell, Walker, Procida
SF - Johnson, Richardson, Wieskamp?
PF - Zollins, Jovic, Sochan
C - Poeltl, Landale, Kessler
If he is there at 9 you have to take him cause the price on Poeltl is going to go up significantly after next season. Poeltl at 9 million is ok. Poeltl at 15 million is unbearable. Spurs have an obvious hole at power forward that needs fixing...but they also are one year away from a hole at center or vastly overpaying for a center.
2 years ago most guys in here thought that 9 mio. is an massive overpay for Poeltl and didn't want to pay more than 5 mio. Who knows? Perhaps he's worth 15 mio. per in two years. And with the salary cap rising...
He'll be gone by 9
I have a feeling the Spurs are not going to get their targets and draft the best available player…a combo guard.
I have no idea but from various posters combined there are about a dozen guys who will be gone by the 9th pick.
I highly doubt a dude that cannot shoot would win all of those awards. That's a big time response to what you said.
I wouldn't mind drafting Duren at all at 9 if PATFO are legitimately thinking about shopping Jakob for a legit 4. That really wouldn't be a bad idea tbh, hypothetically speaking trading Jakob and some fillers for John Collins and drafting Duren is the move for sure imo if that was possible.
Because 5 is the new 4?
SMH...
Jalen Durens one and done numbers compared to Joel Embiids
Duren
Career
G
29
PTS
12.0
TRB
8.1
AST
1.3
FG%
59.7
FG3%
0.0
FT%
62.5
eFG%
59.7
PER
25.3
WS
3.5
Embiid
Career
G
28
PTS
11.2
TRB
8.1
AST
1.4
FG%
62.6
FG3%
20.0
FT%
68.5
eFG%
62.9
PER
28.2
WS
3.4
I don't but I also don't watch a whole lot of college ball. A lot of the college D1 teams seem to have guys playing PF that are fairly small by nba PF standards or don't have a lot of speed. So I tend to ask about how people who may watch more college ball about the mobility and face up game about more mobile college centers. Also lots of folks who have been around spurstalk a few years tend to have Duncan memories and the last 4 years of Duncan while timmy was still listed as a PF was really a center.
I'm open to being convinced why he will be good. All the highlights I see are dunks. A very few decent to, at worst, line drive jumpers. Feel for the game seems low. I could see him dropping. But he's an obviously insane physical specimen. But it seems he would have to develop a lot of skills. Or, you'd have to believe that his college system held him back, and I think that team was somewhat dysfunctional, if I remember correctly. The center from Duke might get picked before him.
Duren is not a power forward, yet, he’d still be an amazing pick.
I’m a fan of Sochan too, but let’s not act like he doesn’t have holes in his game either, especially offensively. Both of these guys are super young though (18) and either would be a solid pick if we stay at 9 imo.
Posted this in the draft thread 3 months ago. Figured I’d repost it here.
Solid assessment. I'm still trying to figure out his intangibles, so to speak. I feel like he will be available when we pick.
I am personally not a fan of Duke players in the NBA, especially their bigs. As good as their bigs have been while at Durham, they have been average at best in the NBA.
Wait a minute Duren played at Memphis....nevermind....I still don't like him.
Man, Houston is gonna be scary good and deep in a few years.
He started to hit more jumpshot last two months of the season. You will see dunks in highlights but he really improve
Feel for the game improved during the season also, not a bad passer.
His team was bad wich don't help him.
Yeah, Penny said when they hit the top ten rankings, everyone (looking at you Emoni Bates) started playing for themselves. If we’re picking at 9, I have no problem picking an 18 YO who’s already some showing signs. He will be only a month older than Primo was when drafted.
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