actually i would think it was very cool of them to drive a hybrid
quit acting stupid dude, i dont like rappers for the cars they drive in fact thats one the reasons i dont like them, and i think spinning rims are stupid
whatever...you youngsters love all the hoopla and entourage, gold teeth, all that the rappers bring... if they didn't do all that, no one would give a fugg about them.. that is why each and every new rapper has to do something bigger and better to make a name... have more gold teeth, wear a bigger diamond necklace, bigger escalade, get short more times, etc... pathetic...
i hate pretty much every new rapper, i think we're talking about two different things
the rappers i mentioned havent dropped a legit cd since 97, 95
im not a fan of ludacris or jayz or nelly or eminem or 50cent, i hate them in fact
how old are you clan?
so, yeah, none of the other rappers or any democrats have suvs... stfu... suvs are not just driven by repubs
Clanedestino you totally busted into an argument saying how mookie and others like rappers who drive SUV's before anyone even mentioned the word rapper in this thread...
Why do you always resort to the same old typical tactics? Its like in brave new world, you've been totally conditioned to go for some outlandish bull reason to scoff people with different views....much like you assume liberals are rich greedy bas s when it fits your argument, then quickly put them down as blue collar workers when that fits your argument
Lets just think about the topic at hand, which i think is suv safety. The Honda Civic is one of the safest CARS in the world, exceeded only by expensive ass mercedes which use top of the line technology....this is common knowledge and i know jack about cars.
Ok, judging before the suburban hysteria of ~1998 which led to the SUV explosion, were you safer or less safe driving a honda civic compared to today?
Less safe. Why? Well because now there are a LOAD more SUV's on the road.
So lets think about this. In 1998 were you safer or less safe driving a tahoe, etc?
In 1998 you were safer. Why? Well because back then less SUV's were on the road.
Now, not taking anything to do with RAPPERS into this argument, isn't it safe to assume at this point that its because of SUV's themselves that you dont feel safe on the ing road???
SUV's make me feel safer on the road. Why? Well because alot of people have SUV's now. Are you seriously scared of lincoln town cars and ford escorts when you're driving a yukon?? No you scared of land rovers, 4 runners, and TAHOES.
People first got SUV's because they wanted to feel big and better than everyone else, a natural pathetic aspect of human nature. Now they just say, well i know gas is horrible but it makes me feel safer, cuz now that half of the population is stuck with SUVs its alot more dangerous to drive out there....due to our own ignorance and childishness
Makes you safer indeed, but because youre the ones who made it dangerous
Its like old bush sr. giving Iraq thousands of tanks and fighter jets and then his 2nd term campaign tried to say 'elect me its a dangerous world out there'
"Because of you, you er!"
--Bill Hicks
Frankly, I think most young people with political ambitions are ing stupid. I sat through a PSO meeting where a bunch of college Democrats came to sit in, and I wanted to beat them all over the head with my ing shoe. When they were sitting there talking about Letticia Vandepuke they were saying we needed to fix the Korean situation. When asked how, they responded with "I dont know, do something". Right.
So yes, young Republicans are idiots, but so are young Democrats. Want to find the brighter people? Go look for young libertarians.
What the would people who hand out books know?
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Libertarians are the . If you ask a libertarian: "What would you do if a cop asks to search your car?" Almost all of them would say "No."
What's a Libertarian?
What is a Libertarian?
Libertarians believe that you have the right to live your life as you wish, without the government interfering -- as long as you don’t violate the rights of others. Politically, this means Libertarians favor rolling back the size and cost of government, and eliminating laws that stifle the economy and control people’s personal choices.
Are Libertarians liberal or conservative?
Libertarians are neither. Unlike liberals or conservatives, Libertarians advocate a high degree of both personal and economic liberty. For example, Libertarians agree with conservatives about freedom in economic matters, so we're in favor of lowering taxes, slashing bureaucratic regulation of business, and charitable -- rather than government -- welfare. But Libertarians also agree with liberals on personal tolerance, so we're in favor of people’s right to choose their own personal habits and lifestyles.
In a sense, Libertarians “borrow” from both sides to come up with a logical and consistent whole -- but without the exceptions and broken promises of Republican and Democratic politicians. That's why we call ourselves the Party of Principle.
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It's awesome to hook up with a young, Republican chick - preferably one with a Tahoe and W sticker, although any SUV will do.
That way you can finally show them what it's like to be ed over.
So in other words, Liberatarians are social liberals and fiscal conservatives???
Sorry, I am not very knowledgeable about politics.
Are there such things as social conservatives and fiscal liberals?
His name is George W. Bush.Are there such things as social conservatives and fiscal liberals?
Yes, and they're running Washington right now...into the ground.Are there such things as social conservatives and fiscal liberals?
Or dying for them.Be nice to them Dan.... you kids will be working for them one day....
anytime mookie makes a comment about white people or republicans he somehow finds a way to use the word tahoe... i was stating the fact that his black rappers also drive them and other suvs...
and your little piece of plastic honda civic is no match for any suv... also, one accident and it is totaled...and the other guys bumper(car, truck, suv, even a ing motorcycle) will be in your driving compartment.
civics are good in crashes as long as no other vehicle is involved...maybe a little mini... and btw, read back up on mookie and his dislike for tahoes... it is like you and women... or is women that don't like you...i forget
www.nhtsa.dot.gov
According to the government, the Civics are just as safe as Tahoes, except in one catagory. Rollovers. There they are safer of course. So, in actuality, Civics ARE safer than Tahoes.
2005 Tahoes averaged a 4 star rating on frontal impact tests.
2005 Civics averaged all scored 5 star ratings on frontal impact tests, so they are safer there as well.
Civics did pretty well on the side impact tests as well, averaging 4.1 stars overall. Tahoes were not tested in 2005.
So, Civics are actually safer according to your own government.
http://www.iihs.org/vehicle_ratings/ratings.htm
The Chevrolet Silverado 1500 and GMC Sierra 1500 were redesigned during the 1999 model year (the old design continued into the early part of the 1999 model year).
OVERALL EVALUATION: MARGINAL
STRUCTURE/SAFETY CAGE: POOR There was moderate intrusion into the driver footwell area and moderate rearward movement of the instrument panel. There also was extensive floor buckling under the driver seat.
RESTRAINTS/DUMMY KINEMATICS: POOR Dummy movement wasn't well controlled. After the dummy moved forward into the airbag, its head dropped down below the window sill. Then the head rebounded upward and hit the shoulder belt housing, which is mounted directly to the seat back. There was far too much upward movement of the steering wheel, which can compromise restraint system performance. Also, the driver seat came loose on one of its tracks and moved rearward slightly on the right side, where the safety belt buckle is anchored.
INJURY MEASURES: GOOD Measures taken from the head, chest, and both legs indicate low risk of injury. Head acceleration from the shoulder belt housing hit was low.
The Honda Civic was redesigned for the 2001 model year.
OVERALL EVALUATION: GOOD
STRUCTURE/SAFETY CAGE: GOOD There was minimal intrusion into the driver footwell area and minimal rearward movement of the instrument panel.
RESTRAINTS/DUMMY KINEMATICS: GOOD Dummy movement was well controlled. During rebound, the dummy's head hit the roof rail and B-pillar.
INJURY MEASURES: GOOD Measures taken from the head, chest, and both legs indicate low risk of injury to these body regions. Head accelerations from the roof rail and B-pillar hits were low.
The Civic did - as did most other vehicles - rate poorly on rear impact and neither vehicle was tested for side impacts through this insitute.
murano>tahoe
Manny, I believe that most of the ratings that are derived for frontal impact are by necessity equivalent to the vehicle hitting a solid object with no over vehicle involved, or a vehicle of similar size. This means that if you crash into a wall, those ratings are accurate. But since there aren't a lot of walls suddenly materializing in intersections, the reality is that you are going to hit a bigger vehicle, and the Laws of conservation of energy and momentum are not going to work in your favor.
True, they are meant to be compared to vehicles close in weight. They aren't perfect indicators by any means, but the Civic outperforms by quite a bit in some of these tests. So all in all, I think in the end it evens out. I'd rather be in a midsize car than a compact or an SUV anyday.
Manny, those tests are very, very limited in scope. The Civic's ratings are only for crashes with stationary immovable/nondeformable objects, such as concrete center line dividers, bridge columns, or large trees. It preforms well against those objects because it has a low mass, and therefore, less inertia. The Civic's ability to survive a crash diminishes SUBSTANTIALLY as the size of the vehicle it crashes into increases. The Tahoe larger mass allows it survive crashes with vehicles smaller than it much better. The Tahoe falls short on safety when it faces as large, larger vehicles, or non-deformable/immovable objects. The Tahoe is also less safe in roll over crashes.
What can not be derived from the crash tests is what makes them short in scope. Roll over crashes account for only a very small percentage of vehicle accidents. There is a larger percentage of deaths involving SUV roll overs than cars, but overall this is a MUCH smaller risk than overall deaths from vehicle collisions.
I rather be in a larger vehicle because I feel there is a greater risk of someone crashing into me, than me rolling my vehicle, or hitting a stationary nondeformable/immovable object.
yes so basically if everyone and their small framed mothers didnt have tahoes, then everyone would have middle sized cars, small cars, and trucks
making the civic's already GOOD safety rating even better (relatively)
a tahoe hitting a tahoe will be ed more than a civic hitting a civic. so why so many tahoes? if youre really worried about 'being safe' then get a civic and your tahoe driving neighbor will too. the result: overall increased safety
its when i think about stuff like this that i realize the benefit of increasing gas prices...
Are there such things as social conservatives and fiscal liberals?NeoCons are social conservatives and fiscal liberals.Yes, and they're running Washington right now...into the ground.
Libertarians are fiscal conservatives and social liberals
True Conservatives are fiscal conservatives and social conservatives
True Liberals are fiscal liberal and social liberal.
Got it? There's gonna be a test later!
Last edited by Nbadan; 07-02-2005 at 02:25 AM.
yeah, those highly staged tests aren't worth a ... you can just turn on the news and see the little civic pinned underneath an suv and see how safe they really are...
if i'm going across an intersection and someone runs a red light and smashes into me from any angle you can be damn sure i'd rather be in any medium-large suv versus a small car...
side airbags are nice, but once it deflates and the bumper is still crashing into the side of your head they don't do that much
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