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    Sochan had so much he needed to work on the fit with the team and ended up working on zero of his issues and instead we just added more issues to him. It’s textbook how not to develop a player

    I actually agree with Dejounte on the SF part. KJ doesn’t need to go. Not if he’s willing to be a bench player. Sochan I believe also needs to be a bench player but that can be in 2 years. It isn’t an immediate issue that needs to be fixed (and by then maybe he does actually work on what he NEEDS not what Pop thinks). Having KJ locked in (and since he’s already been paid) makes him a great bench player.

    I want PG13 on our team. I love his work ethic, his professionalism, his leadership, his ability to defer when he needs to and take over when he needs to, and he’s a very supportive dude in the locker room. He’s my dream pick up for the team. If we can’t manage that (and I would give up a high draft pick for him tbh) then I think we draft one with our pick and get a PG with the Toronto pick. I would then in that case sign Gordon Hayward. The dude is a perfect fit for us offensively, and I’d rather surround Wemby with people who actually know how to play the game instead of people who can’t even run a pick n roll or lob it to him. Also Brunson is a FA in 2025 if we want to wait for a PG. NYK can match of course but will they?

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    I really...REALLY like DUNN.

    Extremely smart defensive player. Athletic and perfect size. I love this pick.

    The Spurs need Smart players. We only have Wemby right now. The Spurs biggest issue ain't Defense...or, shooting...or whatever. It's lack of smarts. We have some really low BBIQ players. Sochan being at the bottom. How many times we gotta see him clog the lane or run into players on offense cuz he don't know where he's at or what he's doing?

    It was a breath of fresh air watching DUNN's youtube clips.

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    Dunn has next level instincts, especially on defense. His 3-point shooting is a disaster, but he's much better inside the arc and there are other guys in this draft(i.e. Sheppard) who can space the floor well.

    I'm all for attempting to build the league's strongest defense, because that's probably your best option for winning with Wemby.

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    Dunn cannot shoot so is not worthy of a top 10 pick in my opinion. In another universe he can shoot and is a top 5 pick because his D is scary good.

    Fortunately, this draft is loaded with PGs and SFs in the top 10 and lottery. I have a difficult time ranking Topic, Castle, Diilingham, Sheppard, and perhaps Collier., Carrington, Wagner. I think we should draft one of them and a SF (or combo F) like Risacher, Williams, Holland, Salaun or Buzelis if we get the Raptor's pick. If we have two picks it's not given to draft a PG with the first one.
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    We need 3 & D wings & playmaking guards. That's the strategy for success with Wemby a 2 way menace.

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    I really...REALLY like DUNN.

    Extremely smart defensive player. Athletic and perfect size. I love this pick.

    The Spurs need Smart players. We only have Wemby right now. The Spurs biggest issue ain't Defense...or, shooting...or whatever. It's lack of smarts. We have some really low BBIQ players. Sochan being at the bottom. How many times we gotta see him clog the lane or run into players on offense cuz he don't know where he's at or what he's doing?

    It was a breath of fresh air watching DUNN's youtube clips.
    Dunn has next level instincts, especially on defense. His 3-point shooting is a disaster, but he's much better inside the arc and there are other guys in this draft(i.e. Sheppard) who can space the floor well.

    I'm all for attempting to build the league's strongest defense, because that's probably your best option for winning with Wemby.
    I don't know who that Dunn kid is but if he can't shoot, just stop it. The last thing this roster needs is another non-shooter.

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    I don't know who that Dunn kid is but if he can't shoot, just stop it. The last thing this roster needs is another non-shooter.
    The Spurs don’t need volume shooters at every position, especially in the starting line up where Vassell will take up all those outside shots. They just need to shoot at a respectable percentage like Sochan is already doing with 2-3 attempts per game. This team won’t ever be constructed like how the Warriors were— people need to get that out of their minds.

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    Sochan is a much better shooter than Dunn. Dunn's FT% is 59.6 and his 3P% 19%. Sochan's FT% 76.8 and 3P% 36.5, Dunn has stopped shooting 3s. I don't think we can afford to have a bad shooter or nonshooter at F. Dunn needs to go to a really good team which has room for a specialist. (Ausar Thompson would also fit much better on a team like that).
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    Sochan is a much better shooter than Dunn. Dunn's FT% is 59.6 and his 3P% 19%. Sochan's FT% 76.8 and 3P% 36.5, Dunn has stopped shooting 3s. I don't think we can afford to have a bad shooter or nonshooter at F. Dunn needs to go to a really good team which has room for a specialist. (Ausar Thompson would also fit much better on a team like that).
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    The problem with the NBA...and most of its fans it seems...is the obsession with "shooting" and offense.

    I could give a damn whether Dunn can shoot a 3 or not. His Defense is next level. Everyone on the SPURS right now are supposed "shooters" and offense guys. There ain't a Defensive guy on the team, except Wemby. Where has that got us? Bottom of the league.

    The problem with the Spurs ain't shooting or offense. We don't need "better" shooters. Everyone on the Spurs right now think they're a scorer...when most are not. Vassell and Wemby are the only legit scorers. I'd trade Keldon for Dunn in a heartbeat. We need less shooters. But, what we really need is Defense and more BBIQ. DUNN has both. And guess what happens when you have DUNN and WEMBY inside? The other 3 players don't have to collapse on defense anymore. They can stay outside and actually guard the 3 point line.

    This game ain't hard folks.

    And, coincidentally...that's the main problem with the NBA today overall. Everyone is looking for the next Curry. The game has really suffered as a result...and the SPURS are the poster child
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    The Spurs don’t need volume shooters at every position, especially in the starting line up where Vassell will take up all those outside shots. They just need to shoot at a respectable percentage like Sochan is already doing with 2-3 attempts per game. This team won’t ever be constructed like how the Warriors were— people need to get that out of their minds.
    Volume shooters? Like shooters shooting a lot? Or shooters being able to shoot? Bc we need that desperately. Sochan started the year hot but is on a major downswing on shooting the 3ball. He has only made 3 in the last 5 games. He doesn’t even make 1 a game and isn’t a floor spacer at all. I’d argue that we have zero shooting around Wemby besides Vassell. He needs floor spacers. Collins, Sochan, Tre all can’t shoot. Having shooters around Wemby is the way to go. Which is why I want Dilly and a SF who can shoot

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    Dilly and Risacher make sense if everything falls into place. And in another scenario is we're drafting something like five with our pick and 10 or 11 with the Toronto pick. In that case, just spitballing, maybe you have to take Dilly with our pic and then someone like Dunn or Holland if he's falling with the Toronto pick.

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    PG13 is old, though.

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    The Spurs don’t need volume shooters at every position, especially in the starting line up where Vassell will take up all those outside shots. They just need to shoot at a respectable percentage like Sochan is already doing with 2-3 attempts per game. This team won’t ever be constructed like how the Warriors were— people need to get that out of their minds.
    One is not nearly enough. You need at least 3-4 credible 3-point threats among your best lineup(s) today.

    Sochan (slow release, % inflated due to combination of low volume and shooting wide open catch and shoot) types don't qualify.

    A threat is someone defenses won't disregard to pack the paint.
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    It's like mentioning getting a Defensive player on one of the worst defensive teams in the NBA...is sacrilege! Even getting just 1 good defensive guy on a team with none..."OMG! We don't need a defensive player...we need more and better scorers."

    When you have a shyt draft like this, you get the best guy in the Draft. Dunn is the best Defensive player I've seen in a long time. In this age where everyone is looking to get another Curry, just the fact that DUNN has rose so high, basically on Defense and smarts alone (watch how he sees the court and how and "where" he sets picks)....that's something special. Don't pass this one up. IMHO

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    It's like mentioning getting a Defensive player on one of the worst defensive teams in the NBA...is sacrilege! Even getting just 1 good defensive guy on a team with none..."OMG! We don't need a defensive player...we need more and better scorers."

    When you have a shyt draft like this, you get the best guy in the Draft. Dunn is the best Defensive player I've seen in a long time. In this age where everyone is looking to get another Curry, just the fact that DUNN has rose so high, basically on Defense and smarts alone (watch how he sees the court and how and "where" he sets picks)....that's something special. Don't pass this one up. IMHO
    nope....ausar thompson is also special on the defensive end...Yet hurts his team cause he cant do nothing on offence..Pretty much 5 on 4 cause
    hes so bad at shooting

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    One is not nearly enough. You need at least 3-4 credible 3-point threats among your best lineup(s) today.

    Sochan (slow release, % inflated due to combination of low volume and shooting wide open catch and shoot) types don't qualify.

    A threat is someone defenses won't disregard to pack the paint.
    Again, the % isn’t inflated if the low volume is purposeful and the hypothetical is that the line-up he’s in has enough volume shooters already. Since when was being a catch and shooter who shoots at low volume whose central focus are other things on the court because the other players already do it a bad thing?

    I wouldn’t want every player on the court with Wemby to be each shooting 4-5+ threes a game. And we shouldn’t penalize a player’s skill who’s not shooting that often because that’s not the expectation in the first place.

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    And before anybody confuses that post as a defense of Sochan as a whole— it is not. He has been below average at other things on the court. It would be nice if the Spurs could get someone like a more physical Tobias Harris: bruises inside, gets key rebounds, has a mid range pull up and post game, and occasionally will be on the perimeter for a catch and shoot 3.

    I just don’t think the future PF guy next to Wemby should be anything like McDermott whose sole purpose is to run around and shoot 3’s. Something’s got to give in the paint to the mid range area— that job has to be shared between Wemby and another guy.

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    I too like Dilly and Risacher, but doubt we could get both with our picks. I could see them taking the SF Risacher first then seeing which guard is available, someone like Reed (if Topic and Dilly are off the board). Risacher/Reed could be a nice combo of shooting and potential defense to add to the club. But I'm kind of selfish and really just want to walk away from this draft with Dilly. His brand of basketball alongside Wemby would be electric. Take the PG Dilly first then see which SF is available around pick 10. I'm intrigued by this Tidjane Saluan kid. I like his hustle, athleticism, and surprisingly his three point shot looks beautiful. Now that Topic is on the shelf for the next 2 months, gonna watch more of this kid and see how he develops.

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    The Spurs don’t need volume shooters at every position, especially in the starting line up where Vassell will take up all those outside shots. They just need to shoot at a respectable percentage like Sochan is already doing with 2-3 attempts per game. This team won’t ever be constructed like how the Warriors were— people need to get that out of their minds.
    We don't need volume shooters, but we need real shooters that opposing defenses actually respect. Sochan's 2 or 3 3pt attempts do you no good when our rivals just sag off him all game long cloging up our spacing. Now imagine having two of those on your team (Sochan and Tre) and actually wanting to add a 3rd one. That's just awful roster building. This team desperately needs some actual real shooters.

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    It's like mentioning getting a Defensive player on one of the worst defensive teams in the NBA...is sacrilege! …

    Not that it’s sacrilege, it’s naive. The refs will put a hard-nosed defender on the bench with three fouls in the first five minutes of the game. You want to waste a draft pick on that?

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    We need 3 & D wings & playmaking guards. That's the strategy for success with Wemby a 2 way menace.
    If the Spurs can somehow get Mikal Bridges on this roster for the veteran that would be perfect.

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    And before anybody confuses that post as a defense of Sochan as a whole— it is not. He has been below average at other things on the court. It would be nice if the Spurs could get someone like a more physical Tobias Harris: bruises inside, gets key rebounds, has a mid range pull up and post game, and occasionally will be on the perimeter for a catch and shoot 3.

    I just don’t think the future PF guy next to Wemby should be anything like McDermott whose sole purpose is to run around and shoot 3’s. Something’s got to give in the paint to the mid range area— that job has to be shared between Wemby and another guy.
    I liked and still like Jarace Walker next to Wemby. I wonder if a Sochan/ Walker swap might benefit both guys..

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