Oh, so les don't mean anything now?
In that case, Dirk >KG now.
So that's a yes or no?
Oh, so les don't mean anything now?
In that case, Dirk >KG now.
You have an opinion. Feel free to exercise it more often, should you wish.
An all-time great coach with a brilliant basketball mind? Surely he wants Nellie coaching the Spurs when Popovich calls it quits.
he makes 'em when they count. :wgaf:
Would you be happy with Don Nelson coaching the Spurs, yes or no?
the majority of spurs fans chose Dirk
it'd be better than AJ's sorry ass.
How do you view who has voted for what?
KG is not a great crunch-time scorer. It's no surprise his job with Boston was to anchor the defense and have the Celtics run their offense through Pierce. Dirk is a much more dynamic and efficient scorer, they are both excellent rebounders, while KG is a much better interior defender. To claim KG is a guy you can run your offense through in crunchtime is folly.
You know who else has hit multiple game-winning shots? Steve Kerr. Who the would run their offense through him the final 5 minutes of a playoff game?But it is you who wouldn't give it to Shaq or Tim in the clutch, bro. That's what you just said - that KG can't create his own shot in the clutch, but Dirk can. That's the same as saying any of the great players can't create their own shot in the clutch. Last I checked, the coach calls the plays. Like I related earlier, KG hit multiple game winners in isolation plays his last season with Minny. You can doublecheck that if you want.
The Mavs came as close as you possibly can in that series to winning a championship without actually doing it. You're talking literally two different bounces of the ball and the Mavs are 06 champs. It went the same length as the GS series, but the Mavs were never within striking distance of the Warriors. If you had watched the 06 Finals, maybe you could grasp this.More exaggeration. You use that a lot against others in your arguments, don't you? To put them on the defensive? To make yourself look better? Nice try. Look, I never said Dallas wasn't in the series. it was pretty close at one point. Within an inch? Nope. They weren't ever within an inch at any point. Being up by 10 with a quarter to go doesn't mean jack , just ask the 2000 Blazers - and its ridiculous you'd sink that low. Oh well, Mavfan for you.
What am I ignoring? I've replied to your idiocy.you can keep ignoring my posts, too, since you obviously have no answer.
The 99-04 Mavs <<< 99-04 Lakers. I can more than live with that.No excuses, remember? Dirk just wasn't good enough on both ends. Accept it. Learn to live with it.
Well, being a Spurs fan and all, I would think you would prize defense instead of some guy that is a fan of creating offensive "mismatches."Absolutely. Unless you'd fare to make an argument that he somehow held Dirk down.
The calls weren't fair. Just because your team was on the receiving end and therefore you cast a blind eye, doesn't mean they didn't alter the course of history.
Translation: "The Mavs didn't beat the Spurs, the refs did."
Dirk is a much better option for running your offense through during the final five minutes of a game than KG. That's a fact. KG is a much better interior defender. That's also a fact.I responded to you saying that, dude. are you drunk? You stated KG can't get his own shot in the clutch, but Dirk can.
Refs beat San Antonio, not Dallas....KG is just as clutch and efficient a crunch-time scorer as Dirk...a jumpshot is a much better option than throwing it down on the low block to a franchise center who can easily draw a foul. Okay, I'm full of and you're not. Whatever you say.You're full of and we both know it, so I responded with the Timmy comment.
why not? Would I fire popovich and change the entire system that we've won 4 championshipswith, just for him? No.
click on the numbers in the poll
But he's an all-time great coach and a brilliant basketball mind!
Theoretically, Popovich never coaches the Spurs. Instead, Nellie is coaching the Spurs. Same teams, same personnel, but it's Nellie's basketball philosophy instead of Pop's.
How many les do the Spurs win? Answer truthfully, and there is a right answer and a wrong answer.
hint: right answer is "zero" and wrong answer is "anything that isn't zero"
Looks relatively troll free to me, although a few trolls voted for KG (21_Blessings, BRHornet45)
Stupid poll. The results are even worse. As if anyone would really have Dirk over Kevin Garnett.
No doubt people who voted for Dirk include:
1) The KFC crew
2) Lakers fans pissed that the Celtics curb-stomped the Lakers last year and will probably do it again with KG back
Which one of those two categories does Bostonguy fall under since he voted for Dirk?
The story changes. First, its KG can't create his shot in crunchtime. Now its you can't run your offense through him. Those are two very different things.
If you would have been more specific, I wouldn't have been as quick to defend KG. Everyone, including me, has gotten on him for not exerting his influence more during the final stretches of a game. I do believe he has improved in stepping up the plate when his team needs him, especially offensively.
But this isn't who would you want taking the last shot for you. This is who is better overall. In the last 5 minutes, you can't say KG is a bad option.
You've been purposely obtuse.You know who else has hit multiple game-winning shots? Steve Kerr. Who the would run their offense through him the final 5 minutes of a playoff game?
Disagree. Guess you can't handle that.The Mavs came as close as you possibly can in that series to winning a championship without actually doing it.
You're talking literally two different bounces of the ball and the Mavs are 06 champs.
I watched the series, every game and intently. I never said they weren't close. I did say the Heat pwned them, which is what the final result is. Coming down from 0-2 against a superior team? Thats pwnage in my book. that's something worthy of a champion. You calling this "1 inch" BS is a disgrace if you really believe the better team won without help from the refs.
I watched every game of this series, as well. I don't give Dirk a whole lot of for this series, though it was a choke; he was injured. See? I'm not as bad as you think.It went the same length as the GS series, but the Mavs were never within striking distance of the Warriors.
I did and I can.If you had watched the 06 Finals, maybe you could grasp this.
Okay then.The 99-04 Mavs <<< 99-04 Lakers. I can more than live with that.
Doesn't mean I can't respect and like the guy for what he DID bring to the game. I enjoy watching the Phoenixes and Golden States of the world even though I'm a spurs fan.Well, being a Spurs fan and all, I would think you would prize defense instead of some guy that is a fan of creating offensive "mismatches."
Oops. Translator seems broken.Translation: "The Mavs didn't beat the Spurs, the refs did."
I wouldn't say much better. I wouldn't say his abilities on offense even supercede KG's; he's just a walking mismatch. A coach's entire offense revolves around mismatches and getting players into comfortable positions to score.Dirk is a much better option for running your offense through during the final five minutes of a game than KG. That's a fact. KG is a much better interior defender. That's also a fact.
Every marquee has a perimeter player handle the ball during crunchtime, all I said.Refs beat San Antonio, not Dallas....KG is just a clutch and efficient a crunch-time scorer as Dirk...a jumpshot is a much better option than throwing it down on the low block to a franchise center who can easily draw a foul. Okay, I'm full of and you're not. Whatever you say.
Click on the # next to the player and it shows you who voted for who. Most Lakers fans, as I can see, voted for Garnett. Lots of Spurs fans went w/ Dirk as well
Epic fail.
Dirk's 65 votes:
35 from Spurs fans(props to them)
9 from Mavs fans
2 from Pistons fans
1 from Celtics fan
1 from Cavs fan
1 from Hawks fan
5 from Rockets fans
3 from Hornets fans
2 from Nuggets fans
1 from Suns fan
4 from Lakers fans
1 from Blazers fan
Just deal with the results and
I dont know whats worse:
1) The fact that you took the time to count out and separate each vote by team affiliation.
2) The fact that you go it wrong. A quick look shows at least 3 Celtics fans voted.
I dont know why most Spurs fans would vote for Dirk. Maybe its cuz Dirk plays in Texas or maybe they hate that Duncan vs. KG talk(who is better). But I dont believe for one second Spurs fans wouldnt rather have KG on their team rather than Dirk freaking Nowitski.
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