Anything noteworthy is fine.
A lot of signings by other teams will affect the Spurs.
This one is worth being here because the price tag might set the bar for other players this summer.
I dunno. They stopped playing Rasho, didn't they?Fixed.
We have a term for posts like this. It's called denial.
Your team blew its wad for a three point shooter.
I'm sure you think it's a great deal though, he's certainly the right skin color for you.
Ecstatic already mentioned it, but I believe it's because you pay more taxes in Canada than the US (significantly more), so the contract isn't worth as much.
Prediction: He won't be anything close to the best 3-pointer shooter when he isn't playing on a team with Shaq/Zo.
In December and January, Kapono hit 50 per cent and 58.3 per cent of his threes, respectively, a stretch in which O'Neal played only four games.
http://www.globesports.com/servlet/s...asketball/home
He's one of the purest shooters in the league. He will still hit a lot of 3's wherever he's playing.
On that same note, you'd figure the Spurs/Rockets/Mavs would be great locations for FA since there is no state income tax, only Federal.
I also think you have to look at the basic economics of the NBA. It is called the MLE for a reason. I would fathom that most would agree that taking into account all the aspects of his play that Jason Kapono is at least an average NBA player. Not all teams have the luxury of Cuban subsidizing one of its players or having a guy like Bruce who plays for much less and stays in SA.
Also every team either through cap space or the MLE has this same type deal to offer, and when you see who all ends up with the MLE this summer, this won't look so bad at all. Also, I don't believe he is getting the whole MLE- not that it really matters to me.
That said, is Rasho worth his contract?
When he signed with the Spurs, yes. It was below his market value at the time, in a year with a shortage of centers who would leave their current team. Contracts were longer then, too. That was just the way it was. For all people's ing and moaning, it still turned out to be a better signing than Brad Miller or Kandi. The funny thing is, fans mostly griped that they thought he couldn't handle Shaq, who was the big threat at the time, and that ended up one of his strengths. Game 1 against the Lakers in 2004 will always be one of the highlights of his career.That said, is Rasho worth his contract?
When Toronto traded for him last year, I still say yes. Again, the alternatives were five year MLE deals to guys like Nazr- if they could even convince one of them to go to Toronto. The Raptors also gave up almost nothing to get him and managed to find a center without using any capspace, by using a trade. The Raptors had a certain role in mind and the length of Rasho's deal fit perfectly.
This year- of course not. But I continue to contend that if Rasho is still a Raptor in June, he will opt out and sign a new cheap deal to stay in Toronto and that final year of his contract won't matter.
as overrated as pejas contract
Peja got a whole lot more than Kapono.
Is it based on something you've heard/read or is it just your feeeling/wishfull thinking ?
LOL @ ploto being exstatic! Get laid dude, this trade sucks
bull statement
out of my favoruite players in the NBA 4 of 5 are white but it doesnt have anything to do with the fact they are white
some of you act like a bunch of ing forum bullies
GROW UP, even ploto is en led to an opinion
and i basicly agree with what ploto and Kori wrote; that it isnt such a terrible contract considering that is Toronto (not the most favourite destination), they really need a 3 AND a shooter.
If you want a terrible 3 spot contract take a look at the Hornets.
That game was fool's gold. Spurs went into the game with a plsn to front Shaq with Rasho and the Lakers used a bad angle on the entry pass for the entire game. So much for the coaching genius of Phil Jackson. The next game the Lakers adjusted and used a different angle on the entry pass and Rasho was useless.
Not a good signing, still not the worst of them either. The length of the contract is even more problematic than the size of it.
Still Kapono is an ok guy.
Yeah the Raptors are still crying over 20 win improvement over previous season. The trade really backfired on them.
Well below market value? Minnesota was offering a couple more million but it was far from "well below market value".
His market value was what he ended up getting from the Spurs give or take a couple million over the length of the deal.
I don't know about that. Rasho was $7M a year and Miller was $9M a year. Miller made an All-Star team along the way. That one is probably a wash but if forced to pick, most would go with Miller.
Kandi's deal turned out to be better than both of them. Yeah, Kandi sucked but his deal was cheap, short and was over fast.
Game 1 was more a matter of Shaq being 3-for-13 from the line. I notice you didn't mention Game 2 and Shaq's 15-for-21 from the field as a career highlight.
But yeah, Rasho's defense was better than expected. The problem was his offense was about 500 times worse than expected.
No the alternative was playing Bosh at center or biting the bullet and going with Bargnani a year early. Or, in other words, what they ended up doing in the playoffs.
Without using capspace?The Raptors also gave up almost nothing to get him and managed to find a center without using any capspace, by using a trade.
You do realize that if Colangelo would have waited a year, he'd be about $15-20M under the cap right now, right? Instead, Colangelo blew his wad last summer and now this summer the result is he has to overpay a one-dimension jump shooter instead of having max money to go get a player to put with Bosh.
I know Rasho is a good guy and everything, but he's not going to throw away $8M.
Want to make a le bet? If Rasho opts out and signs a cheap deal with Toronto, I'll change my le to "Rasho and ploto own me". If that doesn't happen, your le becomes "I love Jackie Butler!"
Deal?
First off- I never said WELL below market. Find where I said that- I simply said Below Market Value.Well below market value? Minnesota was offering a couple more million but it was far from "well below market value".
I don't know about that. Rasho was $7M a year and Miller was $9M a year. Miller made an All-Star team along the way. That one is probably a wash but if forced to pick, most would go with Miller.
Want to make a le bet? If Rasho opts out and signs a cheap deal with Toronto, I'll change my le to "Rasho and ploto own me". If that doesn't happen, your le becomes "I love Jackie Butler!"
Deal?
Second, I think most people would take the 2 years left on Rasho's deal over Miller's 3 years anyday of the week and twice on Sunday
Third, I will take the following bet- but it is contingent on Rasho being a Raptor on June 30, 2008. I will change my le to "I Love Jackie Butler" for 6 months if Rasho is still a Raptor at the end of June 2008 and he does not opt out. That is the only part over which he has control- as to what works out specificaly after that, that I can't bet on.
True. My bad.
But then again, considering the state taxes, the Spurs offer was actually more than the Timberwolves' offer. So it wasn't even really below market value at all.
Don't know about that.
Ok, so you withdraw the statement that he's going to sign a cheap deal with the Raptors after opting out?
Still looks like a deal to me. I'd be utterly shocked if Rasho left $8.5M on the table to opt out. Especially after next year when Bargnani moves into the starting lineup and Rasho plays either Elson or Butler level minutes.
kapono is my boy from ucla.
im glad for him
Please, please please God make Ploto be right!
I will personally change timvp's le and bug him about it for at leat the next week or so!
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