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    the recent plethora of top french prospects in the nba & france winning the world cup is a result of allowing immigration to take over ur country........
    lets talk about history of USA

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    Thinking who the spurs will pick is making my head spin. So many possibilities. I can't help but think that this draft will be like the draft where Keldon and Luka were selected, one decent player and one real dud only with higher stakes. If they go safe on #4, they will reach at 8. If they reach at 4, they will play it safe at #8. This is draft might be like the 2013 draft where the true stars weren't selected until the mid teens. We'll know next month.

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    Kinda joking around here but I'm salty. Atlanta. Saw Quinn sidelines at JL Bourg with the headline "Hawks looking at every option" and I took that personally. sus af statistically anomalous +9 jumps in the lottery to #1 just kinda feels like the league is doing this to SA b/c they think SA bent ATL over on the DJ trade. Which they didn't, DJ is good ATL sucks for not making it work figure it out. Develop Hunter. Go all in with Jalen. I'm not crazy about Risacher but he looks solid and I like a scenario where he falls.

    I could see someone like Sarr as the #1 in this draft at least initially being a curse wrapped in a blessing with regard to the ATL future FRPs but if Risacher comes in and does well it blows the whole plan which was going quite well before the lottery win. It's lose-lose b/c if ATL picks a successful Risacher, SA loses the fit and ATL uses the fit to weaken the 2025 2026 2027. FRP/swap values. Now Hawks have leverage. They can try to pry a ransom from SA to trade the right to select which I wouldn't really consider.

    Risacher is secretly the sleeper agent CIA Pop paid to get selected by ATL and have another "cold streak" to turn that 2025 ATL FRP into gold lol

    Oh well anyway lots of forwards next draft.
    Rookies very rarely make a positive impact on the court, especially not teenagers. I don’t think there’s any reason to worry about Atlanta’s 2024 selection having any sort of negative impact on the Spurs’ gifted draft pick. That organization is dysfunctional anyway. They are going to things up. The spurs need to hold onto those Atlanta picks at all costs

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    I like Risacher is having good games. Let someone else draft him.

    Hope Atlanta takes him instead of Sarr but unlikely. Want Atlanta to not get better.

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    I would trade up for Risacher tbh.

    4 and 8 + a wagon of SRPs.
    No way

    Risacher isn't worth both the 4 and 8.

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    32 points, 11-14 from the field, 4/7 threes, 6/6 free throws, 5 rebounds, 7 assists, 2 steals, 2 blocks.

    Who was this? Reed Sheppard dominating Mississippi State and hitting the game winner. After this game, KOC shot him to the top of his board.

    Thing is, you expect dominant games from players rated for the top of a draft. They're supposed to do this.

    Dalton Knecht had eight games scoring 30 points or more. Many others 20 points or more. Dillingham dropped 35 on a good defensive team in Tennessee.

    It's a great showing for Risacher, who has been fairly unimpressive for a while. He's still a guy who doesn't rebound much, has a negative assist/turnover ratio, his shooting percentage has been trending down, and his defensive metrics are actually pretty poor.

    I do think the Spurs will take him at 4, but one game shouldn't overly change opinions. It's just more information. Good information, showing flashes, but this is a guy who probably has a lower ceiling than we'd like.

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    No way

    Risacher isn't worth both the 4 and 8.
    I'd rather try my chance on a potential versatile, 2 way 6"10 shooting, starting wing, than 2 bench players.

    Sarr and Risacher are the only guy with real upside in this draft, I'm not sure any of the others guys will ever start in a compe ive team. What the point if it's to add another couple Branhams.

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    I have moved to the Reed Sheppard camp at pick 4 and Holland at 8.

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    [Sidery]There are whispers of Stephon Castle and his camp potentially not being willing to do pre-draft workouts for teams with starting point guards already in place.

    Not sure I saw this posted anywhere yet, but Castle's group may be pressing forward with trying to control his landing spot.

    A bit to unpack here. First, if true, this boxes out all of Detroit, Charlotte, Portland, Memphis, and probably Houston. It indicates that he won't be happy getting stuck in a corner on offense while being POA defender on the other side.

    On one level, he's thinking about his career, and standing around watching LaMello Ball do his thing won't get him anywhere. One must wonder how the Spurs might react to this, however. Castle got accolades for being a good soldier at UConn and fitting in. Now we're hearing that he might have been unhappy only facilitating part-time?

    What exactly does he mean by wanting to run point? Does he want to be ball-dominant? Or does a Spurs system where all players are required to make decisions and contribute work for him? Can he even run point full time? Would this bother the Spurs? They normally don't like promising anything. Does it make taking Dillingham a problem for him?

    Unusual, at least. For top 10 picks he's sort of saying he wants Wizards, Spurs, or Jazz.

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    [Sidery]There are whispers of Stephon Castle and his camp potentially not being willing to do pre-draft workouts for teams with starting point guards already in place.

    Not sure I saw this posted anywhere yet, but Castle's group may be pressing forward with trying to control his landing spot.

    A bit to unpack here. First, if true, this boxes out all of Detroit, Charlotte, Portland, Memphis, and probably Houston. It indicates that he won't be happy getting stuck in a corner on offense while being POA defender on the other side.

    On one level, he's thinking about his career, and standing around watching LaMello Ball do his thing won't get him anywhere. One must wonder how the Spurs might react to this, however. Castle got accolades for being a good soldier at UConn and fitting in. Now we're hearing that he might have been unhappy only facilitating part-time?

    What exactly does he mean by wanting to run point? Does he want to be ball-dominant? Or does a Spurs system where all players are required to make decisions and contribute work for him? Can he even run point full time? Would this bother the Spurs? They normally don't like promising anything. Does it make taking Dillingham a problem for him?

    Unusual, at least. For top 10 picks he's sort of saying he wants Wizards, Spurs, or Jazz.
    i'd pass on him if that's true.

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    [Sidery]There are whispers of Stephon Castle and his camp potentially not being willing to do pre-draft workouts for teams with starting point guards already in place.

    Not sure I saw this posted anywhere yet, but Castle's group may be pressing forward with trying to control his landing spot.

    A bit to unpack here. First, if true, this boxes out all of Detroit, Charlotte, Portland, Memphis, and probably Houston. It indicates that he won't be happy getting stuck in a corner on offense while being POA defender on the other side.

    On one level, he's thinking about his career, and standing around watching LaMello Ball do his thing won't get him anywhere. One must wonder how the Spurs might react to this, however. Castle got accolades for being a good soldier at UConn and fitting in. Now we're hearing that he might have been unhappy only facilitating part-time?

    What exactly does he mean by wanting to run point? Does he want to be ball-dominant? Or does a Spurs system where all players are required to make decisions and contribute work for him? Can he even run point full time? Would this bother the Spurs? They normally don't like promising anything. Does it make taking Dillingham a problem for him?

    Unusual, at least. For top 10 picks he's sort of saying he wants Wizards, Spurs, or Jazz.
    The Spurs DO have a starting point guard already in place. Castle can take the job if he's good enough. That's kind of the way things work.

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    The Spurs DO have a starting point guard already in place. Castle can take the job if he's good enough. That's kind of the way things work.
    SpursTalk: Tre Jones sucks. He needs to be yeeted into the sun or traded for a gerbil.

    Also SpursTalk: It will be impossible to supplant Tre Jones as starter.

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    The Spurs DO have a starting point guard already in place. Castle can take the job if he's good enough. That's kind of the way things work.
    Every team in the league could say this. Think it’s clear what he meant. The spurs have a backup caliber point guard thrust into a starting role

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    SpursTalk: Tre Jones sucks. He needs to be yeeted into the sun or traded for a gerbil.

    Also SpursTalk: It will be impossible to supplant Tre Jones as starter.
    Actually spurstalk: Tre is a fine backup who was our best starting option last year due a very poor set of options

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    Every team in the league could say this. Think it’s clear what he meant. The spurs have a backup caliber point guard thrust into a starting role
    ChumpDumper thinks the Wizards and Jazz never played a point guard. They were running 4-on-5.

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    Every team in the league could say this. Think it’s clear what he meant. The spurs have a backup caliber point guard thrust into a starting role
    Is it clear he thinks he can immediately start for the Spurs?

    Or do you think he can immediately start at point guard for the Spurs?

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    ChumpDumper thinks the Wizards and Jazz never played a point guard. They were running 4-on-5.
    ?

    This is a Spurs board. I'm talking about the Spurs.

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    According to HoopsHype, Spurs have (or had) a workout scheduled with Dillon Jones.
    Also scouted him several times through the season.

    Attended the combine both this year and last year too…


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    Risacher had fallen out of my Tier 1, but I think I'm ready to move him back in. My current tiers for the Spurs (and the way to read this is that I would take every player in Tier 1 before I would take any player in Tier 2).

    Tier I:

    Buzelis
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    Dillingham
    Risacher
    Sheppard
    Castle

    Tier II:

    Carter
    Sarr
    Clingan
    Knecht
    Williams

    Tier III (have spent less time on this, because it's less relevant to us, though I'm psychologically prepared for us to take two players from this list):

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    Collier
    Salaun
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    Filipowski
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    I think this draft is much more interesting than typical drafts just because there's no perfect prospect out there and you can really see where peoples' biases are. Among prominent draft guys, you can see a huge difference in opinion between guys like Mike gribanov (values productivity, efficiency, and feel, loves Reed Sheppard) vs. Ben pfeifer (values physical tools and potential, so loves Sarr, Holland, and Collier), vs other guys who just purely value production and so have Clingan/Edey top 2.

    I've followed deanondraft for a lot of years before he stopped generating content this year (I think hired by a team), so I personally value youth and two way productivity over raw physical tools. Would have probably missed big on Anthony Edwards, but probably would have hit on Franz Wagner and successfully avoided Jalen Green. Will be interesting to see what ends up coming out of this draft.

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    Unless Castle's representation is working in cahoots with the Spurs front office (which would only be necessary if they're trying to get him at 8), hopefully they're turned off by this tact and steer clear of him.

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    [Sidery]There are whispers of Stephon Castle and his camp potentially not being willing to do pre-draft workouts for teams with starting point guards already in place.

    Not sure I saw this posted anywhere yet, but Castle's group may be pressing forward with trying to control his landing spot.

    A bit to unpack here. First, if true, this boxes out all of Detroit, Charlotte, Portland, Memphis, and probably Houston. It indicates that he won't be happy getting stuck in a corner on offense while being POA defender on the other side.

    On one level, he's thinking about his career, and standing around watching LaMello Ball do his thing won't get him anywhere. One must wonder how the Spurs might react to this, however. Castle got accolades for being a good soldier at UConn and fitting in. Now we're hearing that he might have been unhappy only facilitating part-time?

    What exactly does he mean by wanting to run point? Does he want to be ball-dominant? Or does a Spurs system where all players are required to make decisions and contribute work for him? Can he even run point full time? Would this bother the Spurs? They normally don't like promising anything. Does it make taking Dillingham a problem for him?

    Unusual, at least. For top 10 picks he's sort of saying he wants Wizards, Spurs, or Jazz.
    This may mean he's more likely to be available at the picks the Spurs have, it's also something of a red flag to me in that he feels en led to a role without having played a single NBA minute, Will be be happy playing off ball? coming off the bench? What if the Spurs sign a ball dominant guard like Donovan Mitc ? Wemby doesn't complain but he does? I wouldn't like to draft a malcontent that thinks every move the team makes should cater to him. I don't think the Spurs FO will take him if they perceive he has a bad at ude like this, but they will have a chance to get a much better reading on him during the in peson interviews, whereas we can all go by random internet snippets

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    Risacher had fallen out of my Tier 1, but I think I'm ready to move him back in. My current tiers for the Spurs (and the way to read this is that I would take every player in Tier 1 before I would take any player in Tier 2).

    Tier I:

    Buzelis
    Holland
    Dillingham
    Risacher
    Sheppard
    Castle

    Tier II:

    Carter
    Sarr
    Clingan
    Knecht
    Williams

    Tier III (have spent less time on this, because it's less relevant to us, though I'm psychologically prepared for us to take two players from this list):

    Topic
    Tyler Smith
    Collier
    Salaun
    McCain
    Filipowski
    Walter
    I'd flip Sarr and Holland(based on talent), but other than that it looks good to me..

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    [Sidery]There are whispers of Stephon Castle and his camp potentially not being willing to do pre-draft workouts for teams with starting point guards already in place.

    Not sure I saw this posted anywhere yet, but Castle's group may be pressing forward with trying to control his landing spot.

    A bit to unpack here. First, if true, this boxes out all of Detroit, Charlotte, Portland, Memphis, and probably Houston. It indicates that he won't be happy getting stuck in a corner on offense while being POA defender on the other side.

    On one level, he's thinking about his career, and standing around watching LaMello Ball do his thing won't get him anywhere. One must wonder how the Spurs might react to this, however. Castle got accolades for being a good soldier at UConn and fitting in. Now we're hearing that he might have been unhappy only facilitating part-time?

    What exactly does he mean by wanting to run point? Does he want to be ball-dominant? Or does a Spurs system where all players are required to make decisions and contribute work for him? Can he even run point full time? Would this bother the Spurs? They normally don't like promising anything. Does it make taking Dillingham a problem for him?

    Unusual, at least. For top 10 picks he's sort of saying he wants Wizards, Spurs, or Jazz.
    Fascinating.

    It’s really a shot at the Hornets, right? For those of us who want Castle, but a wary of taking him at 4, this is a very interesting development.

    ZR + Castle draft is probably my preferred pairing at the moment.

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