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It’s Givony, and he’s ESPN affiliated. They’re not going to let him post.
great hight, short arms though. I'm still not sure, what kind player Furphy will become.
his numbers look similar to those of Buzelis and he also looks similar regarding body type.
Furphy is smaller, but not that much. (Buzelis height: 6'8.75"/ wingspan: 6'10"/ 197 lbs). standing reach is even closer (Furphy's 8'8.5" to 8'9.5")
It’s Givony, and he’s ESPN affiliated. They’re not going to let him post.
I know, he even tours around Europe scouting players.
It could just be a case of conflicting reports.
MCL injury happened and now they're going to see if a surgery is needed.
My only question is shooting, but I don't think his form is broken. I have no concerns about motor, effort, or court vision. Franz is the obvious comparison, but I think he can exceed that. I'm not saying he will, but i think he can if his shooting develops.
High IQ player, feels the game. He's a do it all wing who has one of the highest ceilings in the draft. Has everything you want, size, skill, motor.
The tweet says he’ll participate in pre-draft workouts. Teams will be able to see him move around on the injury. Still think the injury scare bumps him down unless he puts out a phenomenal performance in camps. I wouldn’t be surprised if Spurs get him at #8.
I think it's close between him and Risacher. The main issue with both is that they are not strong enough. Which is probably a flaw that is the easiest to fix when it comes to rookies, by just hitting the weight room. His 3-point percentage wasn't that good, but he has good form, has great athleticism, decent handles, a couple of post moves and counters. Pair that with compe iveness and defensive ability and I really can't see how he can be a bust. He's ahead of Risacher when it comes to self creation ability, while Risacher is the better defender and shooter.
Take all his stats on TankAThon with a grain of salt, the Ignite team was absolutely horrid this season.
It’s wild to me that Ignite had 3 NBA prospects including two lotto guys and looked this bad.
That stink won’t wear off immediately, it took a few years for Jalen Green to stop being a selfish chucker
Once he got a real coach he improved overall. The next few years might be the most important coaching years in Pops career in order to set us up properly. No more grandpa loves everyone bull . I want some nasty. I want them benched and cussed out (and then put back in).
Oh you'll get that alright, except it's gonna be directed at the home crowd again
benching players isn't who we are.
Is hollinger paid to post so many wrong assertions, approximations and omissions, re-writting history and... not checking the stats he's talking about?"[B]the Frank Ntilikinas and Sekou Doumbouyas – were overdrafted based on seasons a bit worse than the one Risacher is having, but Risacher’s statistical profile is much closer to those guys than to Batum and Fournier.Evan Fournier and Nic Batum, who both had much more impressive numbers in their pre-draft seasons."
- His pre-draft season Batum had a pretty difficult start before finshing better with his Le Mans team who went 2-12 in Euroleague.
- Batum there posted 8.5pt, 3.7rb, 2.7ass, 29% on 3.
- Risacher's stats in Eurocup this season: 13.1pt, 3.7rbd, 1.1 ass, 56% shooting on 3 . on a team who went to the finals.
-French league Batum pre-draft season: 12pt, 5rb, 3ass, 35% on 3 in 28mn) on a 23/7 team... (That's not exactly "dominating" the league as Hollinger suggests.)
- Risacher french league pre-draft season: 10pt, 3.8rb, 1 ass, 35% shooting on 3 in 24min on a 25-9 top 3 team.
Evan Fournier never played euro club compe ions. his pre-draft stats in the french league: 14pt, 3.2rbd, 2.2ass ,45%total shooting, 27% on 3 (he was stat padding to death) on 9-21 record, non playoff team (not exactly "dominating" either).
Numbers actually show fournier, and specially Batum and Risacher had very similar numbers. and I like how he "let Bilal on the side" (who had lesser numbers than Zach) while WAS is thrilled with Bilal's first season.
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Another thing Hollinger is omitting is that back in the 2007-2008 season, there was only one american player in Batum's team. There's 4 (+ one canadian) in Risacher's one. Just like the NBA, the french league has changed a lot in 17 years, and making raw comparisons between two player from these two generations without taking this in consideration is honestly very basic reasoning.
Hollinger also didn't check Batum or Fournier scouting report from their pre-draft season. They weren't entirely touted as the players they became, but had similar quesiton marks and similar reamarks than Risacher's... Yeah, all in al, that's exactly the opposite of what Hollinger suggests.
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The Spurs sell that pick like they did last years high #2. They have a history of doing that.
Buzelis to me is a shooter who is not good at shooting. He shoots 27% from 3 which is worse than Sochan and he is much weaker, has worse handle and worse D. Only plus is that he is taller. He could improve of course and really needs to.
He was over 40% from 3 in HS. His shot doesnt have to be re-worked as much as Sochan. Completely different players..
It's quite obvious what is the deal behind conflicting reports about Topic's injury:
- Givony's source is Topic's agent.
- Serbian journalist sources are people from the red star team.
Red star medical staff think that Topic will need a surgery. Topic will go to Croatia to consult the specialist with who he worked for his previous knee injury. As long as this specialist doesn't say surgery is needed, his agent is saying everything is fine to not hurt Topic's draft stock.
It’s sounding more and more like we need to take Edey at 8, he’s killing it the combine and capable of chewing up and spitting out Clingan as he already just proved head to head.
That just leaves what to do with pick 4.
As far as pick 35, why would we assume that because the Spurs traded/sold that pick in prior years that is automatically what they will do?
Because it'll be a pain to develop a third rookie while they're also still trying to develop Sochan, Branham, Wesley, and Cissoko. Especially when that third rookie is likely to have a way lower ceiling than the first two they take.
It’s going to be a pain no matter what with a roster this young. But, Branham/Wesley may both be gone after next season or during. Wesley fell off a cliff as this past season ended. Branham is 50/50 at best to get a QO.
Because they have over a dozen second rounders and nearly that many firsts, can’t onboard that many players, and the higher second has more value. I’ll go out on a limb, and say this will be a sort of policy going forward.
Agree. I see BB point and do think its likely Spurs trade/consolidate eventually but theres so much up in the air Spurs can keep these picks and have everyone fight for spots.
Graham + Cedi are gone most likely. Mamu may be too.
But beyond them at a minimum these guys should all be on the block or in danger of being outright cut if they get out played in camp: Bassey, Branham, Blake, Champagnie and Sidy.
Then guys like Collins are 100% on trade block. Not including Collins because his salary is more prohibitive to just eat, that’s 8 players who are already gone (Cedi + Graham + Mamu) or that could be easily cut (Bassey, Branham, Blake, Champagnie and Sidy).
Theres plenty of room to bring in several new players even before considering possible trades (Collins? Keldon?). But of course trading picks that have value for future picks or players to help win now is obviously a viable path as well and likely happens to some degree next few years.
We don't know that, it's 100% bs runours
I have doubts as well but if Wemby was actually lobbying, considering his IQ and knowledge of ZR's potential that would actually be a green light for me to take him
Furphy's game is pretty dissimilar to Buzelis.
Buzelis is definitely in the Franz Wagner mold -- although he's nowhere the playmaker. You're looking at more of a 4 who can hopefully bang and get rebounds, block shots on the weak side, etc.
Furphy is sort of more of a perimeter, 3-and-D hopeful. He showed little self-creation at Kansas, nor was he asked to. He was a pretty decent perimeter defender (better than some say), hit well from deep but cooled off. He is very active as a cutter, very similar in that regard to Dougie Buckets, and crashes the boards and hustles really well.
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