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    This is so ridiculous.

    we have all these Republicans that remember the denials of Bill Clinton concerning sexual misconduct and where sure he was guilty just like I was, and now they have a pathological liar, and buy the notion that Trump did not even have sex with stormy Daniels. This is quite amusing.

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    So why do you think the misdemeanors become felonies?
    Because he'd made President.

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    ^^^^^^^^

    Meme of an old man trying to break into a facility housing retired s but slipping on his colostomy bag?

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    Can anyone explain how a state court has jurisdiction over federal election interference?
    It doesn't.

    If you don't know what the charges are at this point, I don't know what to tell you other than they have been available for your perusal for quite some time.

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    Then the whole upgrading misdemeanors to felonies because it was in commission of a felony is bull since he has never been convicted of federal election interference. Plus we aren't talking about Georgia we are talking about New York which sure as didn't vote for Trump.
    You don't understand the law he broke.

    Since it's been this long I have to conclude you refuse to even try to understand the law he broke.

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    You don't understand the law he broke.

    Since it's been this long I have to conclude you refuse to even try to understand the law he broke.

    ...he made President, that was the law. That was Hillary's 8 years after Black man from town robbed her of it to begin with.

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    ^^^^^^^^

    Meme of an old man trying to break into a facility housing retired s but slipping on his colostomy bag?
    If it ain't 'broke don't fix it.

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    This is so ridiculous.

    we have all these Republicans that remember the denials of Bill Clinton concerning sexual misconduct and where sure he was guilty just like I was, and now they have a pathological liar, and buy the notion that Trump did not even have sex with stormy Daniels. This is quite amusing.
    I never said he didn't bang the porn star 18 years ago. He probably did. He also hid the payments under legal fees. Guilty of the misdemeanors as charged. Upgrades to felonies? Again a state court doesn't have jurisdiction over federal election interference and last time I checked a person is assumed innocent until proven guilty (in a federal court on federal election interference). Bragg is clearly over reaching.

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    You don't understand the law he broke.

    Since it's been this long I have to conclude you refuse to even try to understand the law he broke.
    I apparently understand it better than you do.

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    I apparently understand it better than you do.
    Now you've done it. Dumper won't right for a week.

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    You don't understand the law he broke.

    Since it's been this long I have to conclude you refuse to even try to understand the law he broke.
    He is just playing ignorant so he can vote for Yam s under the guise, it was a witch hunt, he did nuffin.

    Cause really, just like murder and manslaughter (first, second, third degree), what does it matter, some one is dead. They were mortal and going to die anyway. What’s the big deal?

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    I never said he didn't bang the porn star 18 years ago. He probably did. He also hid the payments under legal fees. Guilty of the misdemeanors as charged. Upgrades to felonies? Again a state court doesn't have jurisdiction over federal election interference and last time I checked a person is assumed innocent until proven guilty (in a federal court on federal election interference). Bragg is clearly over reaching.
    I never said you did. Your new party run by Trump has made the claim. I dont know where you stand. But I know where your party does.

    There was no federal election held to interfere with when this all went down.
    The prosecution will claim that Trump attempted to defraud ny citizens by violating NY election laws that states running for ANY PUBLIC office.
    Does this rise to the level of a felony. We will see. The prosecution must prove a misdemeanor of falsifying business records before it can rise to the level of fraud first.
    This then has been take to mean that NY voters were affected by a public election Im reading. Why did Donald flee NY. I dont know.


    Again. This is not like the Georgia case in which Trump is accused of trying to "secure" electors (and many other charges) AFTER the 2020 election had been declared official.
    And the legal eagles seem to claim the NY case is tougher on the prosecution.
    I guess the old States rights thing is not on your menu. Which would make you more of a federal guy.
    CC! Welcome to the Democratic Party!

    edit: there is an actual NY law "number" You can look it up and read the exact words. I am not a lawyer. I read. Usually more than one source.

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    Mornin'.

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    I apparently understand it better than you do.
    no

    There would be no charges brought if you were right and the law as you understand it was being applied.

    You're wrong. The proof is the trial that is currently being held.

    It's OK to be ignorant and wrong. Just don't be a about it and insist we accept your straw man.

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    no

    There would be no charges brought if you were right and the law as you understand it was being applied.

    You're wrong. The proof is the trial that is currently being held.

    It's OK to be ignorant and wrong. Just don't be a about it and insist we accept your straw man.
    There was gonna be "charges brought" the moment he made President, then got sworn. He's just damn lucky he wasn't murdered, or, at least not yet.

    It ain't over. Not by a jugful it ain't.

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    So why do you think the misdemeanors become felonies?

    because that is how some state and/or federal statutes are written…

    if you are caught breaking the law- you are charged with a crime- however - if you break that law while in the commission of another crime- that changes the severity and basically bumps you up on the chart -
    like from first degree to 2nd degree felony…

    or in this case- from a misdeameanor up to a felony

    example: you shoot and kill someone = murder
    but

    you shot this person while robbing a store = capital murder

    or you shoot a cop = capital murder
    whereas shooting a civilian = murder

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    because that is how some state and/or federal statutes are written…

    if you are caught breaking the law- you are charged with a crime- however - if you break that law while in the commission of another crime- that changes the severity and basically bumps you up on the chart -
    like from first degree to 2nd degree felony…

    or in this case- from a misdeameanor up to a felony

    example: you shoot and kill someone = murder
    but

    you shot this person while robbing a store = capital murder

    or you shoot a cop = capital murder
    whereas shooting a civilian = murder
    Don’t go to so much trouble. Cowboy is in his rationalization vortex.

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    Don’t go to so much trouble. Cowboy is in his rationalization vortex.
    yeah

    nine years in and he has witnessed crime after crime after rape, after fraud, after lies, after coup, after treason,


    and he is now ….”well…im not really understanding…why my cult leader is being mistreated like this…”

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    yeah

    nine years in and he has witnessed crime after crime after rape, after fraud, after lies, after coup, after treason,


    and he is now ….”well…im not really understanding…why my cult leader is being mistreated like this…”
    He made President. That's why we're here today, Homer.

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    yeah

    nine years in and he has witnessed crime after crime after rape, after fraud, after lies, after coup, after treason,


    and he is now ….”well…im not really understanding…why my cult leader is being mistreated like this…”
    I am talking about one specific case and simply repeating what actual legal analysts on Bloomberg have said.

    He's not my cult leader but apparently your cult doesn't understand how the law works. Even if Bragg gets a guilty felony verdict it will likely be overturned on appellate review.

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    I am talking about one specific case and simply repeating what actual legal analysts on Bloomberg have said.

    He's not my cult leader but apparently your cult doesn't understand how the law works. Even if Bragg gets a guilty felony verdict it will likely be overturned on appellate review.
    Nothing is being overturned - the case is solid - and anyone can cherry pick "experts" who will say what their audience wants to hear...

    Im old enough to remember when trump was indicted on this case and the "experts" all went on Fox channel and other rt wing media and said this was going to be thrown out, this was all just democrats, this guy ran for office to get trump, the porn star salacious blah blah blah, this is russia-russia again...

    will never ever make it to trial...


    and here we are -

    and you still believe what you want to believe and then conveniently insert the facts where they fit into your belief..

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    Nothing is being overturned - the case is solid - and anyone can cherry pick "experts" who will say what their audience wants to hear...

    Im old enough to remember when trump was indicted on this case and the "experts" all went on Fox channel and other rt wing media and said this was going to be thrown out, this was all just democrats, this guy ran for office to get trump, the porn star salacious blah blah blah, this is russia-russia again...

    will never ever make it to trial...


    and here we are -

    and you still believe what you want to believe and then conveniently insert the facts where they fit into your belief..
    You're after him because he made President. That's it & that's all.

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    I am talking about one specific case and simply repeating what actual legal analysts on Bloomberg have said.

    He's not my cult leader but apparently your cult doesn't understand how the law works. Even if Bragg gets a guilty felony verdict it will likely be overturned on appellate review.
    The (law) has nothing to do with this. This is high tech lynching plain & clear.

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    I am talking about one specific case and simply repeating what actual legal analysts on Bloomberg have said.
    Link?

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    I listen to Bloomberg business on SiriusXM. Hard to link. Every day at 5 is law experts on various subjects. I'm sure you could find similar analysis if you were really interested in the subject.

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