Spurs Big Board 2.0 with Latest Intel

[timvp]

https://www.spurstalk.com/spurs-big-...2-draft-intel/

[Mr. Body]

Good stuff.

Danny Green is a good comp for Risacher. Risacher plays small, so the size difference matters little, and he can't dribble to save his life. I guess the size difference lets him get shots off slower while Green was faster. The thing, of course, is paying such a high pick on a role-player, but it's one that's needed.

I'm glad to see Topic rated so low. His fit doesn't make sense.

Glad to see Buzelis above Salaun. A wild swing at a 'raw tools' player isn't needed right now. Buzelis has a way to go, but has a higher floor. Salaun just reads as a physical marvel who will never put it together.

Castle is perfect, if there's clarity about this desire to play point guard.

And places like reddit think Dillingham is the worst player in the world. He's a better pick than Sheppard for us.

Ultimately, glad to hear they're very optimistic with this draft. It's much better than how much it's getting on. Would I be happy being Washington, having to pick between two tightly restricted role-players in Clingan or Risacher? No. Would I be happy picking as the Spurs, who know very clearly what is working now, and can place two good prospects around their centerpiece? Absolutely.

[mo7888]

https://www.spurstalk.com/spurs-big-...2-draft-intel/

Looks like it's trending well. I'm happy about where Buzelis is and Sarr. Also pleased that Dilly is dropping and I expect him to drop more. I'd also expect Williams to overtake Holland at some point again, but where we sit today this makes sense.

[scott]

Need to see what Eric Zhang says before I read into this too much

[Mr. Body]

Looks like it's trending well. I'm happy about where Buzelis is and Sarr. Also pleased that Dilly is dropping and I expect him to drop more. I'd also expect Williams to overtake Holland at some point again, but where we sit today this makes sense.

I wouldn't say RD is dropping so much as players moved up. Castle has actually been considered, first of all, like people recognized he's there. The others are Sarr and Risacher and it's little surprise they'd rank them high.

At this point I'd be sutprised to see a ton more movement. Maybe Buzelis or Williams start rocking workouts.

[scott]

Glad to hear the Spurs are more optimistic on this draft than consensus. Despite the complaints any of us (including myself) have about PAFTO's recent draft history - they are still professionals and we are not.

Dillingham at 4 (he's 3 on my personal big board for the Spurs) seemingly contradicts the philosophy that the Spurs are moving away from specialists and to more "all around" talents. Castle and Carter seem the best guards who fit that mold (if Castle is viewed a guard).

Glad to see the Spurs might not be interested in Topic. I'm warming to the idea of Salaun, getting even cooler on the topic of Topic.

[baseline bum]

I wouldn't say RD is dropping so much as players moved up. Castle has actually been considered, first of all, like people recognized he's there. The others are Sarr and Risacher and it's little surprise they'd rank them high.

At this point I'd be sutprised to see a ton more movement. Maybe Buzelis or Williams start rocking workouts.

He's almost certainly dropping coming in at only 164. Damnit I was hoping the 175 listed weight would be legit since he's my second favorite prospect in this draft.

[baseline bum]

Will be interesting to see if the Spurs might trade with Washington to get Risacher if Clingan isn't picked third. Wonder what it would cost if Clingan is the Wizards guy? Though Houston could make that trade too, fvck.

[Mr. Body]

Glad to hear the Spurs are more optimistic on this draft than consensus. Despite the complaints any of us (including myself) have about PAFTO's recent draft history - they are still professionals and we are not.

Dillingham at 4 (he's 3 on my personal big board for the Spurs) seemingly contradicts the philosophy that the Spurs are moving away from specialists and to more "all around" talents. Castle and Carter seem the best guards who fit that mold (if Castle is viewed a guard).

Glad to see the Spurs might not be interested in Topic. I'm warming to the idea of Salaun, getting even cooler on the topic of Topic.

Would you say this? Risacher seems 100% a specialized talent. He shoots, relocates to shoot, and plays defense. He has no on-ball creation, has been rebounding better as of late but has a track record of not. That's the definition of specialized.

Dillingham is not simply a spot-up shooter but can hit from many different situations. He's an exceptional ball-handler, and maybe the best passer in the lottery class (barring Topic, who I can't comment on). That's not a specialist.

The one myth I do see bandied about is that the Spurs draft only for positional size. Which seems impossible to gauge given a low number of draft picks overall, the current draft situation and who has the talent, the fact that we never had Wembanyama before, etc.

[Mr. Body]

He's almost certainly dropping coming in at only 164. Damnit I was hoping the 175 listed weight would be legit since he's my second favorite prospect in this draft.

But... we knew he was 164. That's... what he was listed at in every guide, everywhere. Nothing changed. But now the internet is freaking the out for some reason.

[baseline bum]

But... we knew he was 164. That's... what he was listed at in every guide, everywhere. Nothing changed. But now the internet is freaking the out for some reason.

ESPN and Kentucky listed him 176

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...rob-dillingham
https://ukathletics.com/sports/mbbal...dillinham-rob/

[widowmaker]

Im glad that they are starting to distance themselves from topic, Im starting to dig castle at 4 because Im pretty sure risacher will be gone by then. I wouldn’t mind whoever is left between dillingham, reed or holland at 8. I would also go after caravan in the 2nd round.

[mo7888]

I wouldn't say RD is dropping so much as players moved up. Castle has actually been considered, first of all, like people recognized he's there. The others are Sarr and Risacher and it's little surprise they'd rank them high.

At this point I'd be sutprised to see a ton more movement. Maybe Buzelis or Williams start rocking workouts.

I don't mean to insinuate Dilly is dropping because he's suddenly bad or anything. It's just a product of where everyone projects on the next level. I still have him top 10 and expect him to be there at 8. I'd be fine with him there. On future movement, I agree that it will be a product of individual workouts and/or trades. Outside of that I think we've solidified a bit.

[DAF86]

My big board:

1-Risacher
2-Sheppard
3-Dillingham
4-Buzelis
5-Topic
6-Knecht
7-Castle

Two of those you probably get with #4 and #8.

[RC_Drunkford]

kinda funny that people are freaking out about Dillingham's weight. Like that's the easiest thing to fix. Just hit the gym and eat protein

[LeBowen]

kinda funny that people are freaking out about Dillingham's weight. Like that's the easiest thing to fix. Just hit the gym and eat protein

Agreed.
These posts make it look like 10lbs difference at 19 is the deciding factor whether he'll be the next superstar guard or out of the league after his rookie contract.

[Mr. Body]

Agreed.
These posts make it look like 10lbs difference at 19 is the deciding factor whether he'll be the next superstar guard or out of the league after his rookie contract.

For serious. I repeat myself constantly, but his size isn't the big issue with him. It's a complete lack of defensive high school coaching, it's Trae-level disengagement and ball watching, checking himself out of plays, not great instincts, and so-so buy-in on defense. He did improve over the season and he was the only player who kept up with the movement shooter against Oakland that was killing them. Sheppard couldn't. He actually has no issues navigating screens - he's too quick - it's the rest. If he can get coached and buy into it, he'll be okay. It's crazy, but I think his man defense could become better than Reed's. Team rotations and responsibilities, I'm not sure.

[kobyz]

I have
1-Sarr
2-Risacher
3-Dillingham
4-Castle
5-Sheppard
6-Knecht
7-Williams
Then I'm in doubt at 8 between Clingan and Saluan

[spurraider21]

Castle/Dillingham would be a good outcome. Means they aren’t trying to jam the square peg into the round hole by sticking Castle at point full time

ive already let go of the risacher pipe dream

[MannyIsGod]

kinda funny that people are freaking out about Dillingham's weight. Like that's the easiest thing to fix. Just hit the gym and eat protein

But that's the thing right, he's had a year at a college program that gives students access to great food and great work out facilities and staff to use them and he's still light. The easiest thing to fix also shouldn't be an issue t obegin with given his resources.

[Mr. Body]

Castle/Dillingham would be a good outcome. Means they aren’t trying to jam the square peg into the round hole by sticking Castle at point full time

ive already let go of the risacher pipe dream

Castle/Dillingham is my #1. Risacher/Castle is my #2 and may be even better. I don't think it's any given that Risacher goes top 3, so keep the dream alive.

[drpill]

1. Dillingham
2. Risacher
3. Sarr
4. Castle
5. Sheppard
6. Holland
7. Topic
8. Williams
9. Buzelis
10. Clingan

Personally don't want Topic but that's where he'd slot for me if other guard options are unavailable and if the team is sold on his overall game and health. I want no part of Salaun, just looks awkward to me, not a natural basketball player.

[LeBowen]

Agreed, Sarr and Risacher will definitely be gone before 4th pick.

Castle or a wing they think is the BPA at #4.
I'm fine with Dillingham or Knecht at #8, but not at #4.
I dont' want Topic or Buzelis.

[BackHome]

Any player who has questions about effort is a hard pass for me...

[LeBowen]

Any player who has questions about effort is a hard pass for me...

The thing is that reporters keep talking nonsense to generate interactions.
They couldn't stop talking about Edwards not caring about basketball before the draft and how Wolves ed up by picking him.